Nicely Nitpick Noble 24.04 LTS

[Snowhog]

Maybe they're cake people and just don't care for py.

[oshunluvr]

Snowhog has jokes - ROFL !

[claydoh]

I'd have thought the maintainer/packager would have already fixed this error. It isn't minor.

See comment #8 HERE, from my previous link. It may still be relevant in holding up the process?

[jglen490]

I'd have thought the maintainer/packager would have already fixed this error. It isn't minor.

Definitely a testable thing. The importance of the installer working as it should, and always had, is not underrated. Regardless of code or packaging changes.

Does not bode well for an expectation of stability, so I will wait until such time as stability seems to be a thing

[acheron]

I'd have thought the maintainer/packager would have already fixed this error. It isn't minor.

The fixed calamares was uploaded to noble on 7th March, but has been stuck in proposed behind the enormous time_t64 transition, so it could not get on to the ISO.

Thankfully as of today it will get on to the ISO next time it is rebuilt.

[Schwarzer Kater]

Thank you for letting us know - I am looking forward to testing the installation process during the next days.

[Schwarzer Kater]

Today Kubuntu 24.04 LTS (development branch) received a massive update (cheers!):

KDE Plasma	5.27.11
KDE Frameworks	5.115.0
KDE Gear	23.08.5
Qt	5.15.12
Mesa	24.0.3
Kernel	6.8.0-20

New kernel version, new Mesa version, new Plasma version etc.
I have not had the opportunity to test a new ISO, though.

About the status of the Thunderbird Snap you can read here: Thunderbird Snap for Ubuntu 24.04

I am getting the feeling that this could become the best and most mature implementation of Plasma 5.27 in any distribution so far and - comparing the general status of Plasma 5 and Plasma 6 - could be very suitable for professional settings (from a GUI perspective)!

-> I just hope the Kubuntu developers regard the KDE Distributions/Packaging Recommendations this time and will also add something like Filelight by default to e.g. give Dolphin its full functionality…
By the way:
setting the systemd timeout to 3-5 seconds is quite short - I have often had run-of-the-mill services that needed 10-12 seconds to gracefully quit (on reasonably powerful machines) and so I always set the timeout to 15 seconds now.

[GrouchPotato]

Hi,

I am testing nobel and I ran into the installation issue and applied the fix. I got a complete install with 3 partitions

/boot/efi
/home
/

Initial usage was a positive experience. I applied the few updates that appeared. Uploaded this install to our FOG Server.

I then installed our apps:

Artikulate ok
Bliken ok
cantor ok
kalgebra
lalzium
kanagram
kbrach
kgeography
khangman
kig
kiten
klettres
kmplot
kstars
ktouch
kturtle
kwordquiz
labplot
marble
pairs - no longer available in repository
parley
rocs
step

A whole lot of updates available appeared.
I attempted to apply them.

After some fineggling around, I manged to mangle the install entirely. No Problem I blew away the install for the recently saved image and started again.

This time I installed our apps a couple at a time until the depency problems appeared again.

rocs and step would not install. Due to depency issue. Today I discovered that clamares extensions, data and kubuntu packages would not install. due to some similar dependency issues:
However, calamares package installed by itself. only when I ran it:


~$ sudo calamares -d
[sudo] password for usertester:
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
10:16:58 [1]: static Calamares::Settings* Calamares::Settings::init(bool)
ERROR: Cowardly refusing to continue startup without settings.
"/home/usertester/settings.conf"
"/etc/calamares/settings.conf"
"/usr/share/calamares/settings.conf"
10:16:58 [1]: static Calamares::Settings* Calamares::Settings::init(bool)
ERROR: FATAL: none of the expected configuration file paths exist.


So I then attempted to install the extensions:

$sudo apt install calamares-extensions
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kinit-dev : Depends: kinit (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
kio : Depends: libkf5textwidgets5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5auth-dev : Depends: libkf5auth5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5completion-dev : Depends: libkf5completion5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5completion5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5config-dev : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5configwidgets-dev : Depends: libkf5configwidgets5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
libkf5configwidgets5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5crash-dev : Depends: libkf5crash5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5globalaccel-dev : Depends: libkf5globalaccel5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
Depends: libkf5globalaccelprivate5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5guiaddons-dev : Depends: libkf5guiaddons5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5kdelibs4support5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libkf5textwidgets5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5kio-dev : Depends: libkf5kiofilewidgets5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
Depends: libkf5kiowidgets5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
Depends: libkf5kiogui5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5kiofilewidgets5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5kiowidgets5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5notifications-dev : Depends: libkf5notifications5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu5) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5parts-dev : Depends: libkf5parts5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5quickaddons5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5textwidgets-dev : Depends: libkf5textwidgets5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
libkf5widgetsaddons-dev : Depends: libkf5widgetsaddons5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu3) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
libkf5windowsystem-dev : Depends: libkf5windowsystem5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu3) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
libkf5xmlgui5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libqt5designer5 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable
libqt5designercomponents5 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable
libqt5printsupport5t64 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable
libqt5quicktest5 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.12.2) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.12.2) but it is not installable
libqt5scripttools5 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable
libqt5svg5-dev : Depends: libqt5svg5 (= 5.15.12-1build1) but 5.15.12-1 is to be installed
libqt5widgets5t64 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.1) but it is not installable
libqt5x11extras5-dev : Depends: libqt5x11extras5 (= 5.15.12-1build1) but 5.15.12-1 is to be installed
qt5-qmltooling-plugins : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.9.0~beta) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.9.0~beta) but it is not installable
qtbase5-dev : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (= 5.15.12+dfsg-3ubuntu6) but it is not installable
Recommends: libqt5opengl5-dev (= 5.15.12+dfsg-3ubuntu6) but it is not installable
qtdeclarative5-dev : Depends: libqt5quickshapes5 (= 5.15.12+dfsg-1build1) but 5.15.12+dfsg-1 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5quickwidgets5 (= 5.15.12+dfsg-1build1) but 5.15.12+dfsg-1 is to be installed
Depends: qtdeclarative5-dev-tools
qttools5-dev : Depends: libqt5help5 (= 5.15.12-2build2) but 5.15.12-2 is to be installed
Depends: qttools5-dev-tools (= 5.15.12-2build2)
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
usertester@cr-testing:~$ sudo apt install --reinstall kinit
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kinit : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


$sudo apt install calamares-extensions
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kinit-dev : Depends: kinit (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
kio : Depends: libkf5textwidgets5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5auth-dev : Depends: libkf5auth5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5completion-dev : Depends: libkf5completion5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5completion5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5config-dev : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5configwidgets-dev : Depends: libkf5configwidgets5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
libkf5configwidgets5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5crash-dev : Depends: libkf5crash5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5globalaccel-dev : Depends: libkf5globalaccel5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
Depends: libkf5globalaccelprivate5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5guiaddons-dev : Depends: libkf5guiaddons5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5kdelibs4support5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libkf5textwidgets5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5kio-dev : Depends: libkf5kiofilewidgets5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
Depends: libkf5kiowidgets5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
Depends: libkf5kiogui5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5kiofilewidgets5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5kiowidgets5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5notifications-dev : Depends: libkf5notifications5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu5) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5parts-dev : Depends: libkf5parts5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu4) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
libkf5quickaddons5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libkf5textwidgets-dev : Depends: libkf5textwidgets5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
libkf5widgetsaddons-dev : Depends: libkf5widgetsaddons5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu3) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
libkf5windowsystem-dev : Depends: libkf5windowsystem5 (= 5.115.0-0ubuntu3) but 5.115.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
libkf5xmlgui5 : Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.115.0~) but it is not going to be installed
libqt5designer5 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable
libqt5designercomponents5 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable
libqt5printsupport5t64 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable
libqt5quicktest5 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.12.2) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.12.2) but it is not installable
libqt5scripttools5 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.14.1) but it is not installable
libqt5svg5-dev : Depends: libqt5svg5 (= 5.15.12-1build1) but 5.15.12-1 is to be installed
libqt5widgets5t64 : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.1) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.1) but it is not installable
libqt5x11extras5-dev : Depends: libqt5x11extras5 (= 5.15.12-1build1) but 5.15.12-1 is to be installed
qt5-qmltooling-plugins : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.9.0~beta) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.9.0~beta) but it is not installable
qtbase5-dev : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (= 5.15.12+dfsg-3ubuntu6) but it is not installable
Recommends: libqt5opengl5-dev (= 5.15.12+dfsg-3ubuntu6) but it is not installable
qtdeclarative5-dev : Depends: libqt5quickshapes5 (= 5.15.12+dfsg-1build1) but 5.15.12+dfsg-1 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5quickwidgets5 (= 5.15.12+dfsg-1build1) but 5.15.12+dfsg-1 is to be installed
Depends: qtdeclarative5-dev-tools
qttools5-dev : Depends: libqt5help5 (= 5.15.12-2build2) but 5.15.12-2 is to be installed
Depends: qttools5-dev-tools (= 5.15.12-2build2)
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
usertester@cr-testing:~$ sudo apt install --reinstall kinit
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kinit : Depends: libqt5gui5t64 (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable or
libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.2~) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


Somehow my system is not complete/degraded. Just hoping here that someone has encountered this issue(s) and have suggestions to further troubleshoot with missing package/dependency is missing.

tia.

[oshunluvr]

Can you explain why you're trying to install calamares on a running system?

[Schwarzer Kater]

GrouchPotato: I have just had an update of more than 1100 (!) packages on another machine - perhaps try again later and/or accept that there might be problems as long as it is a development release and not even a Beta…

[Schwarzer Kater]

I forgot to mention: there even is a nice Kubuntu page in the KDE Welcome Centre now:

[GrouchPotato]

GrouchPotato: I have just had an update of more than 1100 (!) packages on another machine - perhaps try again later and/or accept that there might be problems as long as it is a development release and not even a Beta…

Hi Schwarzer Kater,

Yes, I did just run some updates, but now I have only several hundred held back packages and Discovery is broken/uninstalled? 518 held back. 405

[GrouchPotato]

Can you explain why you're trying to install calamares on a running system?

I can't. Except I am not highly familiar with the nuts and bolts of KDE.

[Schwarzer Kater]

Yes, I did just run some updates, but now I have only several hundred held back packages and Discovery is broken/uninstalled?

Did you try

No Problem I blew away the install for the recently saved image and started again.

and to apt full-upgrade from the current status of the repositories afterwards and reboot before installing your programs?

PS: it is called Discover by the way and I would not advise to use it in a development version but only to use CLI for package management.
I would also not advise to install Calamares on the running development release - you are asking for trouble…

[NoWorries]

From what I see, the developers area working hard to prepare an update to KDE Plasma Version 5.27.11. My Discover currently shows 1,559 updates and a total size 881.4 MiB. So I think we need to be patient and wait which is hard for me to do!

On my other Noble system I wasn't patient and did the command line update etc and it broke that system. That now makes me more careful and wait.

[oshunluvr]

I can't. Except I am not highly familiar with the nuts and bolts of KDE.

Calamares is an installer not part of a running system. Not trying to offend you, but you probably shouldn't just install things you have no reason to.