Happy Inspection of Hippo Kubuntu 21.04

[NoWorries]

Great piece of work again!

21.10 code name is already known: Impish Indri.

Wayland offers more security, lets hope more improvements will be made with Impish.

All the best,

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/04/...ename-revealed

Thanks for the detailed reference. I saw it a couple of days ago without the detail and I wasn't sure if that was the official name.

Lets hope that the Wayland default with Ubuntu 21.04 doesn't cause problems, particularly with those who have UHD monitors. I feel certain that with the 6 months development of 21.10, Wayland will be more reliable and perform better than KDE Plasma. No doubt the Wayland improvements will also be made with 21.04.

One interesting feed I got on Kontact was the message about 21.04 being released. I think the one who made the initial posting got a little carried away in that it was reported that it was an LTS. I have just checked and that error has been removed.

Let's continue to enjoy the progress being made by the developers.

[Radcliff]

Impish Indri next door

Great piece of work again!

21.10 code name is already known: Impish Indri.

Wayland offers more security, lets hope more improvements will be made with Impish.

All the best,

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/04/...ename-revealed

[TWPonKubuntu]

I did not notice that back in 17.10. That might be because I avoid the short term releases?

I just want it to work, while retaining the ability to make my own choice on when to upgrade. I've not run into any problems with Wayland, but I'm also not doing any extensive testing for Wayland specific features.

I also don't run straight Ubuntu itself, but rather the KDE version Kubuntu. Probably not a great deal of difference as far as Wayland is concerned, but again I'm not testing for differences.

[claydoh]

I think we all can read the "writing on the wall" that Wayland is the way Ubuntu wants us all to go. Making Wayland the default for 21.04 install is a way to increase the Wayland user base (who will then further de-bug the code). Some bumps in the road may be expected.

Umm....Ubuntu is the one actually lagging behind in this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waylan..._distributions
Note that in 17.10, Kubuntu used xorg, while Ubuntu proper was using Wayland as default for that cycle.

[TWPonKubuntu]

I think we all can read the "writing on the wall" that Wayland is the way Ubuntu wants us all to go. Making Wayland the default for 21.04 install is a way to increase the Wayland user base (who will then further de-bug the code). Some bumps in the road may be expected.

I've NOT yet made the switch to 21.04. I'm waiting to see if there are any real "deal breakers". I do feel that the rate of change may be a little too fast and I'd prefer a longer development cycle. I'm also likely to be seen as a 'lone voice crying in the wilderness'. At least I still have the choice to NOT upgrade until I decide (this is NOT Windows/Microsoft !!! ).

[NoWorries]

On the eve of the release of Kubuntu 21.04, I find it interesting that Ubuntu 21.04 will use Wayland by default, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/...and-by-default.

I have had problems with Wayland on Kubuntu 21.04, so I do not know what the difference is with Ubuntu that makes them confident to use Wayland by default.

[Radcliff]

On my HP system I have Secure Boot disabled in the BIOS and I never change this setting.
If you boot up with Plasma, or X11, does your system work?

Well, secure boot is another testing components, not always on. Since the wrong updates, 5.12-rc7 works only when disabling secure boot..

Yes for what I do, it works correctly or boots default ok too.

No more delay nor hesitation. There are no packages or cmd line to deal with, it is already there for a few weeks now. Logout to get it at the bottom left.

Same applies for the Gnome 38.5. In Ubuntu HH, Wayland is called Ubuntu, plasma Wayland for Ku.

Still, it is not perfect, but there were big progresses made in Hirsute Hippo. I mean BIG!

[Radcliff]

When installing Kubuntu 20.10 the screen displays "Kubuntu" Logo and the status of the DVD file checking, then goes to the Live demo screen.
When installing Kubuntu 21.04 BETA the screen displays "Kubuntu" Logo but does NOT display the status of the DVD file checking, then hangs without going to the Live demo screen.
Latest file hirsute-desktop-amd64.iso dated 4/15/2021.

For this cycle, the installer takes longer to boot or to see try/install Kubuntu. The bootable media file checker was removed in Hirsute Hippo.

All you do is wait. Our average is about a minute for seeing Try Kubuntu.

[verndog]

On my HP system I have Secure Boot disabled in the BIOS and I never change this setting.
...
The other difference is that I use KDE Plasma and NOT Wayland. I have installed Wayland packages to test it out and have found it unsatisfactory. If you boot up with Plasma, or X11, does your system work?

Same here. I wasn't aware Wayland is available on Kubuntu until I read someones message yesterday saying it works good. Mine works, but some things a very delayed to respond. Yes its fast, but fast doesn't count if others items are delayed.

[gh4wi]

Kubuntu 21.04 Beta

When installing Kubuntu 20.10 the screen displays "Kubuntu" Logo and the status of the DVD file checking, then goes to the Live demo screen.
When installing Kubuntu 21.04 BETA the screen displays "Kubuntu" Logo but does NOT display the status of the DVD file checking, then hangs without going to the Live demo screen.
Latest file hirsute-desktop-amd64.iso dated 4/15/2021.

[kc1di]

I downloaded and installed the Beta yesterday and so far everything is working fine on my Lenovo laptop. Enjoying the new release.

[NoWorries]

On my HP system I have Secure Boot disabled in the BIOS and I never change this setting.

Also, my Kernel is Linux 5.11.0-14-generic. I notice that in post #118 above, you had Kernel 5.12-rc7 which did not work, but 5.11.0 does.

The other difference is that I use KDE Plasma and NOT Wayland. I have installed Wayland packages to test it out and have found it unsatisfactory. If you boot up with Plasma, or X11, does your system work?

[Radcliff]

Shim or xwayland issue

Knowing that only xserver is in Proposed this morning and in order to isolate this secure boot issue, the bug is in regular updates. Just made a second fresh install and the problem is in the following packages. Xserver is not part of the equation:

Must be shim or xwayland:

grep "upgrade " /var/log/dpkg.log
2021-04-11 05:27:10 upgrade dpkg 1.20.7.1ubuntu4 1.20.7.1ubuntu4
2021-04-11 05:27:12 upgrade base-files:amd64 11ubuntu18 11ubuntu18
2021-04-11 05:27:12 upgrade base-passwd:amd64 3.5.49 3.5.49
2021-04-11 05:27:13 upgrade debconf:all 1.5.74 1.5.74
2021-04-11 05:27:13 upgrade dpkg:amd64 1.20.7.1ubuntu4 1.20.7.1ubuntu4
2021-04-11 05:27:14 upgrade libc6:amd64 2.33-0ubuntu5 2.33-0ubuntu5
2021-04-11 05:27:16 upgrade mawk:amd64 1.3.4.20200120-2 1.3.4.20200120-2
2021-04-11 05:27:17 upgrade perl-base:amd64 5.32.1-3ubuntu2 5.32.1-3ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade libnss-systemd:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade libsystemd0:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade systemd-timesyncd:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade systemd-sysv:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade libpam-systemd:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:59 upgrade systemd:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:59 upgrade udev:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:10:00 upgrade libudev1:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:10:00 upgrade python3-minimal:amd64 3.9.2-2 3.9.4-1
2021-04-14 11:10:00 upgrade python3:amd64 3.9.2-2 3.9.4-1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade libpython3-stdlib:amd64 3.9.2-2 3.9.4-1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade libatomic1:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade libquadmath0:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade gcc-11-base:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade libstdc++6:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libobjc4:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libgomp1:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libgfortran5:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libgcc-s1:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libqt5svg5:amd64 5.15.2-2 5.15.2-3
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libsane1:amd64 1.0.32-0ubuntu1 1.0.32-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade libsane-common:all 1.0.32-0ubuntu1 1.0.32-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade sane-utils:amd64 1.0.32-0ubuntu1 1.0.32-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade ubuntu-drivers-common:amd64 1:0.8.7 1:0.8.9.1
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade libnettle8:amd64 3.7-2.1 3.7-2.1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade libhogweed6:amd64 3.7-2.1 3.7-2.1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade ubuntu-minimal:amd64 1.466 1.467
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt:all 1:21.04.7 1:21.04.8
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-core:all 1:21.04.7 1:21.04.8
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade python3-distupgrade:all 1:21.04.7 1:21.04.8
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade ubuntu-standard:amd64 1.466 1.467
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade cpp:amd64 4:10.2.0-1ubuntu1 4:10.3.0-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade firefox:amd64 87.0+build3-0ubuntu3 87.0+build3-0ubuntu4
2021-04-14 11:10:09 upgrade fonts-opensymbol:all 2:102.12+LibO7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 2:102.12+LibO7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:amd64 1.18.3-1ubuntu1 1.18.4-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade libgstreamer-plugins-good1.0-0:amd64 1.18.3-1ubuntu1 1.18.4-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:amd64 1.18.3-1ubuntu1 1.18.4-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade network-manager:amd64 1.30.0-1ubuntu2 1.30.0-1ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade libnm0:amd64 1.30.0-1ubuntu2 1.30.0-1ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:10:11 upgrade libqt5webenginecore5:amd64 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:14 upgrade libqt5webengine5:amd64 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:14 upgrade libqt5webenginewidgets5:amd64 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:14 upgrade libqt5webengine-data:all 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-sal3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-salhelpergcc3-3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-cppu3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade ure:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade uno-libs-private:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libreoffice-calc:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:16 upgrade libreoffice-impress:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-draw:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-kf5:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-qt5:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-base-core:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-math:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:18 upgrade libreoffice-common:all 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:19 upgrade python3-uno:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:19 upgrade libreoffice-plasma:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:20 upgrade libreoffice-writer:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:21 upgrade libreoffice-core:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:24 upgrade libreoffice-style-colibre:all 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:24 upgrade libreoffice-style-breeze:all 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:24 upgrade linux-base:all 4.5ubuntu4 4.5ubuntu5
2021-04-14 11:10:32 upgrade linux-generic:amd64 5.11.0.13.14 5.11.0.14.15
2021-04-14 11:10:32 upgrade linux-image-generic:amd64 5.11.0.13.14 5.11.0.14.15
2021-04-14 11:10:37 upgrade linux-headers-generic:amd64 5.11.0.13.14 5.11.0.14.15
2021-04-14 11:10:37 upgrade python3-pexpect:all 4.6.0-4 4.8.0-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:38 upgrade qml-module-qtwebengine:amd64 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:38 [B][COLOR=#ff0000]upgrade shim:amd64 15+1552672080.a4a1fbe-0ubuntu2 15.4-0ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:38 upgrade shim-signed:amd64 1.45+15+1552672080.a4a1fbe-0ubuntu2 1.46+15.4-0ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:38 upgrade xwayland:amd64 2:21.0.99.902-0ubuntu1 2:21.1.1-0ubuntu1[/COLOR][/B]
2021-04-14 11:10:38 upgrade usrmerge:all 24ubuntu1 24ubuntu3

[Radcliff]

MoK manager needs attention

20210411 ISO

Redo the fresh install with secure boot disabled and MOK inactive (--enable-validation). No luck after update manager full content, the same issue remains when re-enabling MoK and secure boot.

MoK is not working anymore, at boot Kernel 5.12-rc7 returns the following errors:

error: Invalid signature
error: you need to load the Kernel fisrt.

mokutil --sb
SecureBoot enabled
SecureBoot validation is disabled in shim
uname -a
5.11.0-14-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 8 21:39:23 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Security beep works correctly this morning:

mokutil --sb
SecureBoot disabled
uname -a
5.12.0-051200rc7-generic #202104112331 SMP Sun Apr 11 23:34:31 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

[Radcliff]

Secure boot issue defect installation

Booting in Wayland default, does not fix the secure boot issue.

This bug has an indication to delete the install, WE LOST THE SECURITY BEEP when entering or inside the BIOS. Unless the sound is muted, it is always an indication of a defect install.

The MoK manager bug comes from the X security updates and probably the mixture of shim this morning, nowhere else.

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For booting in MoK with <<reset system>> option, take good note that a ThinkPad has the option in the BIOS to reset Secure Boot key's default. MoK doesn't like it since recent security updates.