Happy Inspection of Hippo Kubuntu 21.04

[MeMyself]

Just noticed 5.80 is in the Staging branch. Haven't tested it yet. Has anyone tested it out?

[acheron]

I find the fact "a bore" that Ubuntu-based distros don't include LibreOffice Base in the download/install LibreOffice. What is the reason for not including it?

Ubuntu do not want it as it would then pull java/JRE/stuff onto the ISO. Both bloat, and stuff that they do not want to be in the 'main' pocket of supported things.

[hstoellinger]

See my previous post regarding downloading from LO directly - NO Flatpak, by the way, just download, extract the debs and install, using dpkg.

[jlittle]

... don't include LibreOffice Base in the download/install LibreOffice. What is the reason for not including it?

Historically, the need to keep the isos small enough to fit on a CD, then on DVDs, then on 2 GB USB sticks, drove a lot of decisions like that. I wouldn't be surprised if the non-inclusion of LO Base goes back to that era.

[dequire]

I find the fact "a bore" that Ubuntu-based distros don't include LibreOffice Base in the download/install LibreOffice. What is the reason for not including it? I know one has to spend some time to get connections to databases working, eg. one must have the right connector on one's system. But to find out how to "close that gap" cost me a couple of hours.

Installation of L.O. took around 5 minutes here, installing via Flatpack using Discover. Very easy.

[hstoellinger]

Hello,

I am aware that this is probably not the right place to ask a question about Kubuntu 21.04, but there is no 21.04 section in the forum as yet...

I just installed it and it works fine mostly, so far. At the moment I have one "complaint":

I find the fact "a bore" that Ubuntu-based distros don't include LibreOffice Base in the download/install LibreOffice. What is the reason for not including it? I know one has to spend some time to get connections to databases working, eg. one must have the right connector on one's system. But to find out how to "close that gap" cost me a couple of hours. Of course, in the end I downloaded LO 7.1.1.2 from LO's own download page, and everything works o.k.

On a more positive note: My ancient Sony laptop uses a NVIDIA G98M [GeForce 9300M GS] graphics card. inxi -F shows that it runs the open SW nouveau driver on the Kubuntu 21.04 system just installed. Having experienced absolutely NO crashes or freezes, I am a happy bunny; especially so as the proprietary NVIDIA 340.108 driver seems to not be supported officially anymore on kernel 5.10. I hope this isn't just temporarily so...
Regards
H. Stoellinger

[NoWorries]

We are now in the final 2 months before the release of Hirsute Hippo.

Currently I appreciate the excellent progress of Hirsute Hippo development. I wish to thank acheron and his associates for their support as they oversea the porting of KDE to work on Kubuntu 21.04. Also, thank you for the superb updates from those working on KDE Plasma, Frameworks, Applications and Qt.

The progress over the past month is shown in the table below.

	Last Month	2 Months to go
KDE Plasma Version	5.20.5	5.21.0
KDE Frameworks Version	5.78.0	5.79.0
QT Version	5.15.2	5.15.2
Kernel Version	5.10.0-12-generic	5.10.0-14-generic

With the exception of QT Version, progress has been made in all other major areas. From acheron #76, we now have Plasma Version 5.21 which has many new features.

I couldn't help but notice at: https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-21-04-i...led-by-default where it claimed that Ubuntu 21.04 will have Wayland installed by default. Every time I try out Wayland on my HP Laptop with UHD displays, I always find that System Settings > Display and Monitor does not have any option to define a Primary Display. I think this is the reason why a presentation from LibreOffice Presentation is totally unsatisfactory, ie a mess. So I wait with bated breath for this to be fixed. When it is, I will then believe that Wayland can be used by default. In the meantime, I boot with X11.

[MeMyself]

Have to admit, so far Hirsute has been a nice upgrade. Just noticed when backing up, my first Hirsute backup was late November. Didn't realize that I've been running it that long, which is a testament to how smooth it has been.

Add in the 5.21 and I've been running the 5.11 kernel - a really enjoyable OS

Looks like Neon is not the only one with 5.21.0. See attached Image.

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[NoWorries]

Looks like Neon is not the only one with 5.21.0. See attached Image.

[Don B. Cilly]

FWIW, neon User is on 5.21.0. Unstable on 5.21.8. Nothing breaks that I can see.

[acheron]

In case people are wondering, Plasma 5.21.0 released today is on the way, but has some hurdles to jump 1st.

1) The hirsute archive was closed to most package builds today due to a serious bug in the file permissions of some built packages, and may not re-open fully until tomorrow. See: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ry/041385.html
2) A new version of glibc (the package that provides the core libraries for a GNU Linux system) is in the -proposed pocket, and has some issues to fix. Even if I were to upload the new Plasma, most of it would be 'stuck behind' that glibc update, and not hit the release pocket until the issue cause by new glibc are fixed by the Ubuntu core dev team.

So in an experimental PPA you can find and try 5.21.0 if your dare. No warranties, no promises, at your own risk. If it breaks your system, you get to keep both halves.

ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental

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[NoWorries]

Sorry to say that I had my definition of HD wrong. In fact my HP laptop has a UHD display and all my troubles are related to the UHD resolution. I have edited my posts #71 and #73 to fix this error and I hope that the reason for the UHD problems is easy to fix.

I have noticed that System Settings > Display and Monitor no longer lets me easily change the position of my displays as before, so something has changed.

[MeMyself]

I run both at 1080, so I can't compare to the resolution you just mentioned.

Glad to hear from you, but you didn't mention the resolution of your displays. I only have trouble with Laptop and External monitor HD displays, ie 3840x2160. Is this the resolution of your displays?

[NoWorries]

I've been running 21.04 for quite a while now and haven't yet experienced this issue with the external monitor. My laptop had an Intel graphics card.

About the only issue I have had, just started in the past couple days: Discover all of a sudden force closes every time. The Discover notification of updates works fine, Muon works without issue.

Glad to hear from you, but you didn't mention the resolution of your displays. I only have trouble with Laptop and External monitor UHD displays, ie 3840x2160. An alternative definition is a 4K display. Is this the resolution of your displays?

[MeMyself]

I've been running 21.04 for quite a while now and haven't yet experienced this issue with the external monitor. My laptop had an Intel graphics card.

About the only issue I have had, just started in the past couple days: Discover all of a sudden force closes every time. The Discover notification of updates works fine, Muon works without issue.

I have two Laptops with Kubuntu 21.04. One is a 9 year old AUSU with an NVIDIA card and the other is a 2 1/2 year old HP Spectra with an AMD video card and HD graphics. Both have external monitors with the HP having a HD monitor.

The ASUS System Settings > Display Configuration works perfectly in the relative positions and resolution of the two displays.

The HP SPectra with the HD screens does not lend itself to getting the relative positions other than by trial and error. The graphic below, using Spectacle > Full Screen (All Monitors), shows the Display Configuration to get the correct location.

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As you can see, the Display Configuration screens have to be separated to get the correct display.

If I change to have the screens adjacent to each other, I get the displays overlapping as shown below.

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I tend to prefer aligning the screens along the bottom edge. The display below shows the end result.

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As you can see, the display of the Laptop and External Monitor shows something is in error in System Settings > Display Configuration.

I hope this problem is easy to fix as HD monitors are now more frequent and for 21.04 to only work on old hardware is not good press.