Backup Program

[Guest]

hey everyone, i am looking for a backup program and have found 3 i like:
deja-dup
dirsyncpro
dar
does anyone know which one of these are better? or can suggest a better one i missed,
i am look for something similar to acronis's non-stop backup, as acronis is windows only

[Snowhog]

Another you might want to look at is Lucky Backup.

[StarWolf]

that works very well

Another you might want to look at is Lucky Backup.

i used it great program i just need to figure out how to tell it now to only copy the new files

[Snowhog]

Also, check out this debian link of other backup applications: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/backuptools1.htm

[james147]

i used it great program i just need to figure out how to tell it now to only copy the new files

Luckybackup is just a front end to rsync, which only copies changes to files rather then everything so it should do this by default (that is new files and changes to old files).

A nice command line tool is rdiff-backup with is a wrapper around rsync and stores incremental backups so you can restore from any point that you took a backup and only uses up the space of the original files plus and changes made (saving allot of space for data that doesn't change often). I don't know any gui front end for it, but I haven't really looked for one so there could be one about.

[oshunluvr]

I'm happy with rdiff-backup and a cron job but I'll look into those.

I'm also using btrfs so I need to get more into snapshots and their uses, but time is always a factor...

...maybe when I retire again!


EDIT: Here ya go James: http://wiki.rdiff-backup.org/wiki/in...aces#Linux_KDE

Looks like most of those are abandoned.


Deja-Dup is a Gnome tool so a non-starter for me. dirsyncpro may have some potential.

I really think the future will be advanced file system features like btrfs has to auto-create backups and roll-back functionality. Disk space is getting cheaper all the time.

[james147]

I'm happy with rdiff-backup and a cron job but I'll look into those.

That's the way I would do it

I'm also using btrfs so I need to get more into snapshots and their uses, but time is always a factor...
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I really think the future will be advanced file system features like btrfs has to auto-create backups and roll-back functionality. Disk space is getting cheaper all the time.

Yeah, I am using btrfs as well and have setup an hourly cronjob to take a snapshot of my system with little changes to the filesystem there should be little space being taken up by these snapshots. But these are NOT backups or a replacement for a backup system to an external location such as a usb hard drive or networked computer. They merely make it easier to recover little bits of lost data (accidently deleted file or some such) in a working computer but offer no protection against lost or damage to the hardware (like a proper backup system should).

Just so you know, creating a snapshot in btrfs as easy as:

btrfs subvolume snapshot /path/to/subvolume /path/to/snapshot

assuming both paths belong to the same device that is and that the first path is a subvolume. I tend to add a $(date +%F) or similar to the snapshot path

[oshunluvr]

Yeah, I was wondering if the btrfs snapshot could be set up like the roll-back feature of windows so you could return to a previous state after a bad edit or update. I envision a daemon that does auto-snapshots whenever a system item is changed and offers a boot-time roll-back in case of a crash. Could be useful.

I agree that the off line backup is required for important data. I have the luxury of a server at home so I dual-backup with my desktop (server-to-desktop, desktop-to-server). Obviously, the server has way more data than my desktop can hold but the irreplaceable stuff (e.g. family photos) are auto-saved.

[Teunis]

Disk space is getting cheaper all the time.

Disk space is filling up ever faster
Like my camera delivering photo's in the 40-60 MB range per picture and movies come in at close to 3 MB per second...

[oshunluvr]

Disk space is filling up ever faster..

Hmm, which came first, the chicken or the egg?

One could argue that the reduction in cost-per-megabyte begat new devices/software with ever larger space requirements.

Or, if one were a conspiracy theorist one could propose that the companies were in cahoots!

More likely, both trends are a simple extension of Moore's Law.

In my case, after acquiring 4TB of additional space for my server. I re-ripped my 400ish CD collection into flac rather than mp3. So here; the available space begat the file sizes.

p.s. One should never pass up the chance to use the word "cahoots" in a sentence, or "shenanigans"

[SteveRiley]

Two people in cahoots often will begat something while engaging in shenanigans

[Snowhog]

In rural Pennsylvania, engaging in shenanigans is a sin.

[capt-zero]

Here in Texas it's mandatory, except before 12 on Sundays. However wearing cahoots is not allowed within 200 feet of a church or school.

[HalationEffect]

One should never pass up the chance to use the word "cahoots" in a sentence, or "shenanigans"

In a similar vein, I'm always on the lookout for any opportunity to use "flibbertigibbet"

[Snowhog]

Well, then, let's not forget:
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