Is Kubuntu dying??

[GreyGeek]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

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Nor by the way does Gparted do those things but at least it sees that I have RAID devices.

To move a partition:

1. Select an unmounted partition.
See Section 5.1.1 ― Selecting a Partition.

2. Choose:
Partition ▸ Resize/Move.
The application displays the
Resize/Move /path-to-partition
dialog.

3. Adjust the location of the partition.
See Section 5.2.5.1 ― Specifying Partition Size and Location.

4. Specify the alignment of the partition.
See Section 5.2.5.2 ― Specifying Partition Alignment.

5. Click Resize/Move.
The application displays the resize/move partition operation
in the Pending Operations pane.

Moving data between partitions? There are other tools to do that, quickly and easily.

[tomp01]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

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KDE 4 is an excellent GUI, however the Kubuntu implementation needs to be more focussed on sorting out bugs prior to release. If that means a delay before that happens then I can't see why that's a problem.

When will people understand that Kubuntu is a flagship for KDE, many people will judge it by their own experiences with Kubuntu and draw an unfair conclusion.

Where did you get that idea? That claim would imply that the KDE developers are designing KDE for a particular distro, and I've never seen any evidence of that. I've never read a single comment from any KDE developer that even implied that Kubuntu was the flagship for KDE. I've read where folks claimed that openSUSE was KDE's "flagship" distro. Dittos for Mandriva, Kubuntu and even Linux Mint 8 KDE.

I doubt Aaron would allow such an attitude to take hold.

I get that idea by virtue of the fact that Kubuntu is the most used KDE distro, hence it is bound to be perceived that way.

[GreyGeek]

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I get that idea by virtue of the fact that Kubuntu is the most used KDE distro, hence it is bound to be perceived that way.

I can understand that. While I was running PCLinuxOS during 2007 and 2008 it was #1 on the DistroWatch page hit counter for over a year. We PCLOS users felt that PCLOS was the KDE "flagship".

And, I understand that "perception is reality" .... until reality bites perceivers in the butt.

But, the fact still stands that Aaron Seigo does not allow KDE development to favor any particular distro, so no distro can, rightly, claim to be the KDE "flagship".

[claydoh]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

I get that idea by virtue of the fact that Kubuntu is the most used KDE distro, hence it is bound to be perceived that way.

tbh, even that is subject to debate as there is no real way to determine this. And we know how easy it is to rally the users to up the page hit counts

[tomp01]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

I get that idea by virtue of the fact that Kubuntu is the most used KDE distro, hence it is bound to be perceived that way.

tbh, even that is subject to debate as there is no real way to determine this. And we know how easy it is to rally the users to up the page hit counts

OK, if it's not the flagship it is certainly a flagship for KDE.

[GreyGeek]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

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OK, if it's not the flagship it is certainly a flagship for KDE.

I can vote for that!

[oshunluvr]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

Moving data between partitions? There are other tools to do that, quickly and easily.

No offense GG, but I fail to see how using multiple tools to perform a task that one could do in the past is progress. Regardless, I wouldn't move back to Mandriva over this one tiny tool.

[GreyGeek]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

None taken. Small, dedicated utilities is the way Linux used to be, before Emacs tried to put everything and the kitchen sink into that dev tool. Now, every tool tries to be all things to all people. Sometimes they are effective, sometimes not.

[Ole Juul]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

. . . Small, dedicated utilities is the way Linux used to be, before Emacs tried to put everything and the kitchen sink into that dev tool. Now, every tool tries to be all things to all people. Sometimes they are effective, sometimes not.

I personally prefer dedicated utilities. But it is only recently that I have some ability to (minimally) deal with that in a *nix environment. I think that approach offers the freedom that a more advanced user often prefers. It is unfortunate that the way it is now, those individual utilities are difficult to understand because typically only people who are willing or able to spend an enormous amount of time (ie professionals) can make good use of them. That does not need to be so.

I started using Kubuntu because I wanted it all - and I wanted it all to work. What's more, KDE offers a great amount of customization of the end users experience without having to understand how it all works. I think that is indeed the best approach for providing what most people really want and need. Kubuntu has gone great strides in that direction. Whether it is the most used Linux disto or not is unimportant to me. If it keeps going the way it is, it will be fine and it will keep growing in popularity.

[oshunluvr]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

good point GG - luv you man...


in a totally non-sexual way...

[kyonides]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

Perhaps the problem is that every single Linux app should consist of several small and efficient applets that can be used by / accessed from a single GUI app. (I hope I'm not reinventing the wheel here...)

[Yuri sss]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

Really? I can't find any options in kde partitionmanager to relocate data from one partition to another and remount it while saving the changes to fstab, edit mount locations - and save the changes to fstab, or do anything with my raid partitions.

Diskdrake would do all that (except the raid stuff AFAIK because I wasn't using raid back then) and could do it in 2002. For example, you could install Mandrake, boot into it, decide you wanted /tmp on a different partition, choose the destination, click "move" and "save changes". Then a reboot and you were done.

Nor by the way does Gparted do those things but at least it sees that I have RAID devices.

Never tried moving partitions around and such, and never used Raid either, so I don't know about that.
What I meant was it's better in terms of usability - diskdrake always felt somewhat awkward to use.

[GreyGeek]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

good point GG - luv you man...

in a totally non-sexual way...

Phileo, not Eros!

EDIT:
At nearly 70 I find myself drawn to graphic based utilities more and more as my memory slowly fades away. I use "apt-get update & apt-get upgrade" all the time. Also, "apt-get -f install" and "dpkg --configure -a". But, beyond that, I would have to consult the man pages. Even then, I have to keep one Konsole open with the man page while I use another console to do the command, because I cannot read and retain the syntax of the switches long enough to close the man page and do the command in the same Konsole window. And I used to have no problems reading off in my mind hundreds lines of code of a program I had written months before. Moral: STAY AWAY from the Nutrasweet, folks! Using it is like putting a gun to your head and blowing brain cells away . (I only found out afterward that Aspartame breaks up in aqueous solutions to form Phenylalanine and Methyl Alcohol! MeOH kills brain, eye, kidney, pancreas and liver cells. It oxidizes to form Acetaldehyde, a known carcinogen, which then oxidizes to Formic acid, a.k.a. ant sting or embalmer's fluid. BAD STUFF.

[oshunluvr]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

Yuri: I would agree with you there. I also think the kde partition manager interface is nicer looking. I guess I should stop complaining and dust off the programming manuals and get to work! :P COBOL anyone?

Kyonides: Great idea! Now YOUR turn to get to work programming!

GG: Sorry - I had waaayyy too much wine last night to be posting...

... apparently, alcohol and forums don't mix!

[verndog]

Re: Is Kubuntu dying??

Moral: STAY AWAY from the Nutrasweet, folks! Using it is like putting a gun to your head and blowing brain cells away . (I only found out afterward that Aspartame breaks up in aqueous solutions to form Phenylalanine and Methyl Alcohol! MeOH kills brain, eye, kidney, pancreas and liver cells. It oxidizes to form Acetaldehyde, a known carcinogen, which then oxidizes to Formic acid, a.k.a. ant sting or embalmer's fluid. BAD STUFF.

Ha...and I always thought it was old age causing that condition. Now I have an excuse when forgetting things.