Happy Inspection of Hippo Kubuntu 21.04

[claydoh]

Well, it is not really to do with new Qt, as pyqt5 is more or less independent. We already had pyqt5 5.15 in groovy, whereas Qt was 5.14.

Remember, the ISO was broken well before Qt 5.15 landed in hirsute.

I stand corrected but my general point still stands that it is usually too early at this stage for general end-user discussion on pre-release versions [emoji1]



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[acheron]

Well, it is not really to do with new Qt, as pyqt5 is more or less independent. We already had pyqt5 5.15 in groovy, whereas Qt was 5.14.

Remember, the ISO was broken well before Qt 5.15 landed in hirsute.

[claydoh]

Looks like most of the ISO issue is that ubiquity needs some fixes to work with the new pyqt5 imported from debian in this release.

Hopefully that can be fixed up within the next week.

or there were some minor teething problems from ubuntu migrating to the current (!!!!) Qt

I'll say it at least once per thread: it is quite useless, at least 150% so, in looking at a pre-pre-pre release of *buntu unless one is actually working on it. It is akin to using a computer while someone is actively swapping out parts.

Mid to late December, imnsho.

So I am not all that far off, lolol

[acheron]

Looks like most of the ISO issue is that ubiquity needs some fixes to work with the new pyqt5 imported from debian in this release.

Hopefully that can be fixed up within the next week.

[NoWorries]

Rufus 3.13 GPT
Today's build stalls in desktop with no taskbar. Unusable.

From what I can see, rufus is for use on Windows systems to make an installation usb. If you are already on Kubuntu or Ubuntu, you should be using something like usb-creator-kde and make the source, the iso file, and the destination, the usb.

[acheron]

The ISO is not stalling on the real desktop. It is stopping at the try/install screen, where you get only the wallpaper as ubiquity (which does the try/install) is not starting.

You can easily boot to the desktop by removing the 'maybe-ubiquity' command from the boot command in the grub edit menu.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...y/+bug/1903378

[Radcliff]

Rufus 3.13 GPT
Today's build stalls in desktop with no taskbar. Unusable.

[jlittle]

... I found that I needed to use Muon to install extra ubiquity packages...
After doing this, I found that the install icon failed to start the installation. I found that by using Konsole and entering ubiquity, the installation started...

By installing those packages you enabled the GTK ui, and used that to install. The icon runs the KDE ui, which silently quits a second or so after starting.

Even though it's not using the KDE front end, it still installs Kubuntu, or at least it did for me, and quite quickly too. I normally don't use the icon anyway because I want to give the -b switch, to discourage the installer from messing with the existing grub set-up.

[Radcliff]

It is not clear if the ISO works out of the box? Did not try it since Nov 5th.

I don't do stable builds.

[NoWorries]

Following my successful installation of Hippo, I have now found that the approach I previously used no longer works. So to me, it seems that this method has been Snookered by the developers.

I need to apologize to the developers for thinking that they had snookered me by not being able to install 21.04. I was wrong and they had in fact updated the ubiquity version to that for Hippo. So I got caught by the rapid progress they are making.

I have now been able to install Hippo and I found that I needed to use Muon to install extra ubiquity packages. The total number is shown in the graphic below.



After doing this, I found that the install icon failed to start the installation. I found that by using Konsole and entering ubiquity, the installation started.

I have now replaced the LTS, Kubuntu 20.04, on my HP Laptop with Hippo, 21.04 and it is working very well. From the schedule it is now about 3.5 months to the start of the testing week. So I am very happy to continue the inspection of Hippo.

[claydoh]

I look forward to the time when we can all install Hippo as it is now just over 3 week since the release of Groovy. By comparison, Groovy could be installed 1 week after Focal was released.

Why would this make any sort of significant difference?
Maybe someone on the small Kubuntu team was on vacation, or their day job got in the way, or there were some minor teething problems from ubuntu migrating to the current (!!!!) Qt
or has happens between LTS, there has been some new things being started this cycle.

I'll say it at least once per thread: it is quite useless, at least 150% so, in looking at a pre-pre-pre release of *buntu unless one is actually working on it. It is akin to using a computer while someone is actively swapping out parts.

Mid to late December, imnsho.



Btw having the latest Qt is imo quite significant in itself. Ubuntu has usually lagged behind here, but that was mainly for Unity development iirc

[jlittle]

The deprecation is only a warning. It occurs with groovy.

[NoWorries]

Following my successful installation of Hippo, I have now found that the approach I previously used no longer works. So to me, it seems that this method has been Snookered by the developers.

The error message that I get when I enter ubiquity is:

/usr/bin/ubiquity:74: Depreciation Warning: The imp module is depreciated in favour of importlib;  
see the module's documentation for alternative uses

I used importlib in Muon and installed all the modules that were listed. That made no difference

I would like to hear from anyone who knows how to solve this problem.

[NoWorries]

Well I have now successfully install 21.04 on my Sacrificial Laptop. I now have the following system information.



The way I did it was to start a console session using the 21.04 desktop from the startup usb and entered "ubiquity" and this started the installation. Prior to doing this, as I was stopped at the initial desktop and could not proceed, I got Muon and installed all the pre-released updates.

So now I have Hippo running and am using it for this post. So as you can image, I am very happy with its current state of development.

I have also tried Wayland and it is much improved. My favourite applications all work as they should. The main problem at this stage is that it does not recognize my external monitor.

The window title at the top does not show the name because of the font size. Also, the control at the top right edge is not all together clear but it is useable. Considering the early stage of development it is very commendable to see the progress being made.

[NoWorries]

Looking great and certainly very different to Groovy, ie KDE Plasma 5.19.5 > 5.20.3 and QT 5.14.2 > 5.15.1.

I look forward to the time when we can all install Hippo as it is now just over 3 week since the release of Groovy. By comparison, Groovy could be installed 1 week after Focal was released.