Caspar Bowden, former Microsoft Privacy Chief no longer trusts MS

[GreyGeek]

Well written, Teunis.

[Teunis]

Personally I have no issues with a large software company showing the world how it's done.
Microsoft Windows is the desktop to beat, so far still no problem.

I do have a problem with the way they have and are forcing OEM's to refuse to sell hardware without OS and HW manufacturers to not supply the required interfaces for other than MS OS'es.

Also I see an unhealthy link between the OS and Office division, itneeds to be broken up.

[tek_heretik]

Win7 is a "super XP" which most people have gotten very comfortable with. It is more compatible with legacy programs and doesn't require retraining to learn or a touch display to use.

You are right on the money with that one, just like XP, there will be a 'support extension', was thinking that a while back already.

[GreyGeek]

Not really.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windo...le-get-whacked

I'm afraid you are right. A company with that many $Billions in liquid cash isn't going to die quickly. Today, MS met and exceeded analysts predictions for earnings, but that is a game of manipulation they are very good at playing, and have been for a long time.

Yet, 7 still outsells 8.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/01/win...-in-september/

And will for the foreseeable future. Win7 is a "super XP" which most people have gotten very comfortable with. It is more compatible with legacy programs and doesn't require retraining to learn or a touch display to use.

[Roguehorse]

You're right, Tek_heretik, and that is what is scaring MS and its 3rd party lackeys to death. My son, who manages programmers why I retired from, just got a new laptop from System76, with Ubuntu pre-installed. We are going to have a Kubuntu installation party this Saturday!

Wish I could be at your place this weekend! I'm surrounded by Microsoft fans who work for the school district. You'd think with all the cutbacks California is making in their school system they would start looking at cheaper technology alternatives but, no, they would rather shut school down and cut employees than wake up.

[Roguehorse]

IMO, there's a lot of cash changing hands now by folks desperately trying to block Linux in order to minimize the effects of a bad Win8 roll-out and public rejection.

There's probably a lot of truth to this my friend. When a person starts putting things in perspective with Linux running Android, all the major stock markets, TV's, cars, supercomputers, all the Apache servers plus all the companies listed at the Linux Foundation who are supporters, not to mention the internet itself, Google, Amazon, Twitter, Facebook and so on, there probably is money changing hands to try and protect the one last frontier Linux has yet to get a major stake in and that's the desktop.

[tek_heretik]

Not really.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windo...le-get-whacked

Yet, 7 still outsells 8.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/01/win...-in-september/

Oh, so it's the Vista/7 debacle again but backwards, lol. Regardless, when all the smoke clears, they peaked at 7, the emperor's clothes are coming off, no offence Steve, but I never put much weight in 'sales data', a great portion of those forced 'WinDOHS tax' machines could still be sitting in warehouses, not to mention back to school/Christmas season sales. But your undying loyalty to your former employer is touching, lol.

[SteveRiley]

WinDOHS is dying

Not really.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windo...le-get-whacked

Yet, 7 still outsells 8.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/01/win...-in-september/

[GreyGeek]

You're right, Tek_heretik, and that is what is scaring MS and its 3rd party lackeys to death. My son, who manages programmers why I retired from, just got a new laptop from System76, with Ubuntu pre-installed. We are going to have a Kubuntu installation party this Saturday!

[tek_heretik]

@Grey...agreed, I've had issues with outdated Flash too, I say FRUDGE THEM! They don't need my traffic or money if they are going to be selective, they will pay in the end, WinDOHS is dying, Android is growing which incidentally is LINUX BASED, pah ha ha ha (evil genius laugh).

[Feathers McGraw]

Same thing?

[GreyGeek]

Na, it's not cynicism... it's experience.

[Feathers McGraw]

Very cynical of you!

I think it's more likely that a few key people have been convinced that flash player is the easiest way to do things like DRM, so they use it without Linux even being a consideration.

Linux isn't DRM friendly, for good reason.

Feathers

[GreyGeek]

[QUOTE=Roguehorse;337873]I dream of the day I can get rid of Microsoft completely, but just like charles052, I still have items and functions around the house that are only developed to work on their platform..... [QUOTE]

This morning I tried to start an online chat with a TimeWarner sales person. Couldn't do it. Needed to be running Windows or Apple. There's no need for that kind of restriction.
Try to use iTunes without Win or OSX. Can't do it, reliably. Can't watch Amazon Prime movies, which require versions of Flashplayer that Adobe won't update for Linux. Another deliberate block placed in front of Linux. IMO, there's a lot of cash changing hands now by folks desperately trying to block Linux in order to minimize the effects of a bad Win8 roll-out and public rejection.

[tek_heretik]

instead of trying to live off their 1990's heydays.

Good one, and the copycat buggy 'Fisher-Price' jokes that followed. The evil tyrant is dead, the villagers are dancing in the streets, lol.