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    Plasma 5.8 in 16.10 backports

    Does anybody know when Plasma 5.8 will be included in kubuntu-ppa/backports? Eagerly waiting for it...

    #2
    When Ubuntu updates Qt version in the repos, so that 5.8 can be built, I reckon.

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      #3
      Ubuntu 16.10 already ships with Qt 5.6 which is sufficient for Plasma 5.8.

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        #4
        Originally posted by nidico View Post
        Does anybody know when Plasma 5.8 will be included in kubuntu-ppa/backports? Eagerly waiting for it...
        Once it get in the development 17.04 release, we can backport. So hopefully not too long.
        On #kubuntu-devel & #kubuntu on libera.chat - IRC Nick: RikMills - Launchpad ID: click

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          #5
          Cool, thanks for the reply!

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            #6
            Originally posted by acheron View Post
            Once it get in the development 17.04 release, we can backport. So hopefully not too long.
            Yeah, there needs to be something to be backported from. For some reason I was thinking backporting from 16.10 not to 16.10




            Okay, what happened to the smilies??
            Last edited by claydoh; Oct 19, 2016, 07:12 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by claydoh View Post
              Yeah, there needs to be something to be backported from. For some reason I was thinking backporting from 16.10 not to 16.10




              Okay, what happened to the smilies??
              They appear in that quote while I type in the quick reply box.
              On #kubuntu-devel & #kubuntu on libera.chat - IRC Nick: RikMills - Launchpad ID: click

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                #8
                Originally posted by claydoh View Post
                ....


                Okay, what happened to the smilies??
                I ran into that too! Snowhog explained that if you go to the Advanced tab and at the bottom of that page unselect the checkbox "Disable smiles with text", which enables emoticons so they will display --- for THAT message only! You have to do it for each message because of some flaw in a vBulletin mod.
                "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                  #9
                  That change was only made to the KFNBlue Style; none of the other Styles are affected (or shouldn't be!) by the modification. That said, due to the confusion the modification is creating here, I've undone the change I made and cleared the system cache. The behavior of smilies "should" return to their 'normal' behavior.
                  Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                  Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                  "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                    #10
                    Ah, they have! I went to the "Advanced" editor on a previous post and noticed that the box was already unchecked.
                    "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.”
                    – John F. Kennedy, February 26, 1962.

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                      #11
                      For the adventureous, the staging-plasma PPA contains 5.8.3 for 16.10 and 16.04 since November 13:

                      https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+...staging-plasma

                      Haven't tried it, as I'm personally using neon.

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                        #12
                        For over a week now I have been checking this option on a Yakkety system and what I get is
                        Code:
                        :~$ sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade
                        [sudo] password for xxxxx: 
                        Hit:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
                        Hit:2 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates InRelease                                                                                  
                        Hit:3 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-backports InRelease                                                                                
                        Hit:4 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu yakkety InRelease                                                                                          
                        Hit:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security InRelease                             
                        Hit:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
                        Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
                        Hit:8 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
                        Reading package lists... Done
                        Building dependency tree       
                        Reading state information... Done
                        79 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
                        Reading package lists... Done
                        Building dependency tree       
                        Reading state information... Done
                        Calculating upgrade... Done
                        [WARNING]The following packages will be REMOVED:
                          ksysguard pam-kwallet-init plasma-desktop[/WARNING]
                        The following NEW packages will be installed:
                          fonts-hack-ttf libkwineffects9 libkwinglutils9 libkwinxrenderutils9 libpam-kwallet-common qml-module-org-kde-kirigami qml-module-qtqml-models2
                          ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt
                        The following packages will be upgraded:
                          bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme gtk3-engines-breeze kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-gtk-style
                          kde-config-gtk-style-preview kde-config-screenlocker kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze kde-style-breeze-qt4 kde-style-oxygen-qt5
                          kdeplasma-addons-data kgamma5 khotkeys khotkeys-data kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass ksysguard-data ksysguardd kwayland-integration kwin
                          kwin-addons kwin-common kwin-data kwin-style-breeze kwin-x11 kwrited libkdecorations2-5v5 libkdecorations2private5v5 libkf5screen-bin
                          libkf5screen7 libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkscreenlocker5 libksgrd7 libksignalplotter7
                          libkwin4-effect-builtins1 libkworkspace5-5 liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 libpam-kwallet4 libpam-kwallet5
                          libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libprocesscore7 libprocessui7 libtaskmanager6 libweather-ion7 milou
                          oxygen-sounds plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-integration
                          plasma-look-and-feel-org-kde-breezedark-desktop plasma-nm plasma-pa plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widgets-addons
                          plasma-workspace polkit-kde-agent-1 powerdevil powerdevil-data qml-module-qtquick-controls-styles-breeze sddm-theme-breeze systemsettings
                          user-manager
                        77 to upgrade, 8 to newly install, 3 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
                        Need to get 72.4 MB of archives.
                        After this operation, 23.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
                        Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
                        As you see I have emphasized what would happen, ie it removes plasma-desktop.

                        I did try it on a 17.04 system and it did not remove plasma-desktop but it did remove ksysguard and the default panel does not contain a system manager. So adventurous ones beware.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by nidico View Post
                          For the adventureous, the staging-plasma PPA contains 5.8.3 for 16.10 and 16.04 since November 13:

                          https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+...staging-plasma

                          Haven't tried it, as I'm personally using neon.
                          And I suggest you don't try. That PPA is for the developers use.
                          PPA description


                          Work in progress Plasma 5 packages, DO NOT USE ON PRODUCTION SYSTEMS.
                          Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                          Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                          "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by NoWorries View Post
                            For over a week now I have been checking this option on a Yakkety system and what I get is
                            Code:
                            :~$ sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade
                            [sudo] password for xxxxx: 
                            Hit:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
                            Hit:2 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates InRelease                                                                                  
                            Hit:3 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-backports InRelease                                                                                
                            Hit:4 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu yakkety InRelease                                                                                          
                            Hit:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security InRelease                             
                            Hit:6 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
                            Hit:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
                            [B][COLOR=#ff0000]Hit:8 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma/ubuntu yakkety InRelease[/COLOR][/B]
                            Reading package lists... Done
                            Building dependency tree       
                            Reading state information... Done
                            79 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
                            Reading package lists... Done
                            Building dependency tree       
                            Reading state information... Done
                            Calculating upgrade... Done
                            [WARNING]The following packages will be REMOVED:
                              ksysguard pam-kwallet-init plasma-desktop[/WARNING]
                            The following NEW packages will be installed:
                              fonts-hack-ttf libkwineffects9 libkwinglutils9 libkwinxrenderutils9 libpam-kwallet-common qml-module-org-kde-kirigami qml-module-qtqml-models2
                              ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt
                            The following packages will be upgraded:
                              bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme gtk3-engines-breeze kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-gtk-style
                              kde-config-gtk-style-preview kde-config-screenlocker kde-config-sddm kde-style-breeze kde-style-breeze-qt4 kde-style-oxygen-qt5
                              kdeplasma-addons-data kgamma5 khotkeys khotkeys-data kinfocenter kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass ksysguard-data ksysguardd kwayland-integration kwin
                              kwin-addons kwin-common kwin-data kwin-style-breeze kwin-x11 kwrited libkdecorations2-5v5 libkdecorations2private5v5 libkf5screen-bin
                              libkf5screen7 libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkscreenlocker5 libksgrd7 libksignalplotter7
                              libkwin4-effect-builtins1 libkworkspace5-5 liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 libpam-kwallet4 libpam-kwallet5
                              libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libprocesscore7 libprocessui7 libtaskmanager6 libweather-ion7 milou
                              oxygen-sounds plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover plasma-discover-common plasma-integration
                              plasma-look-and-feel-org-kde-breezedark-desktop plasma-nm plasma-pa plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widgets-addons
                              plasma-workspace polkit-kde-agent-1 powerdevil powerdevil-data qml-module-qtquick-controls-styles-breeze sddm-theme-breeze systemsettings
                              user-manager
                            77 to upgrade, 8 to newly install, 3 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
                            Need to get 72.4 MB of archives.
                            After this operation, 23.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
                            Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
                            As you see I have emphasized what would happen, ie it removes plasma-desktop.

                            I did try it on a 17.04 system and it did not remove plasma-desktop but it did remove ksysguard and the default panel does not contain a system manager. So adventurous ones beware.
                            I don't see this on my 16.10 installation. I do see that you have the plasma-staging ppa in use. I suspect that is the reason for your situation here. That ppa isn't for general use; it's there for the developers, and including it in a production system (a system that isn't one being used by a developer to test development) is simply asking for trouble.
                            Windows no longer obstructs my view.
                            Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
                            "It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

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                              #15
                              I only enable that repository occasionally to see if there is any progress being made. So far I haven't seen any progress recently. By having it unchecked I still get the normal updates for Yakkety and no harm is done to my installation. Hence I am playing it safe using this approach.

                              I don't mind testing it on my Zesty installation as this is still in very early development and problems caused by the staging-plasma repository are worth the gamble.

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