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    #106
    Yes, I am happily enjoying being able to get onto the latest page, ie 11. I think I was only blocked from access for a brief period.
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      #107
      Plasma 5.21.4 20210408 iso

      All good, not a single error from booting ubiquity, tweaking plasma to update manager. Same for the surprising content of Proposed. Plasma 5.21.4 is out.

      Code:
      Operating System: Kubuntu 21.04
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.80.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.12.0-051200rc6-generic
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
      Code:
      $ dpkg -l '*buntu-desktop' | grep ^ii
ii  kubuntu-desktop 1.405        amd64        Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system
      Code:
      # fs=$(df / | tail -1 | cut -f1 -d' ') && tune2fs -l $fs | grep created
Filesystem created:       Fri Apr  9 05:36:36 2021
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        #108
        Hi Guys,

        From what I have read so far about stability and work ability, would you recommend someone upgrading at this stage to the 21.04 version? I understand there maybe issues still, but really, what is your opinion from what you have experienced. :-)

        Kind regards
        Ste
        Last edited by Bukunut; Apr 12, 2021, 03:20 PM.
        There are three kinds of people in the world; those who can count and those who can't.
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          #109
          Originally posted by Bukunut View Post
          Hi Guys,

          From what I have read so far about stability and work ability, would you recommend someone upgrading at this stage to the 21.04 version? I understand there maybe issues still, but really, what is your opinion from what you have experienced. :-)

          Kind regards
          Ste
          Hirsute is pretty set for the big leagues, only fine tunings ahead final ISO on the 22nd. Maybe we will get the latest kde frameworks 5.81 this week, but it's getting late.
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            #110
            Radcliff

            hmm...well... I thought that it was just a "bad burn" on my part, so, this is interesting, that i had just all sorts of problems with a similar thing.
            thanks for the information.
            woodsmoke
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              #111
              I continue to find this distribution to be amazingly reliable. I previously reported problems with LibreOffice and now I have pre-release candidates enabled and it is working very well. I had previously encountered LibreOffice Impress artefacts with embedded movies being displaced in the control viewing window. I now find that the video image is perfectly located.

              BTW I have KDE Frameworks 5.81.0 installed as I use the staging frameworks ppa. No doubt it will be coming soon for the standard packages.

              I have also tested the Wayland version of 21.04 and it still needs more refinement to catch up with the X11 version. The System Settings > Display and Monitor does not provide more than one resolution option for my Laptop screen but provides them all for my External display. Also there is no option for selecting a Primary display. In spite of this limitation, LibreOffice impress now works as it should, though somewhat slower, particularly on embedded videos which are jerky.

              The old problem on not restoring the previous session is still present. Also Wayland seems to take much longer to shutdown than X11.

              So from what I have stated above, you will not be surprised that I highly recommend 21.04 as a production desktop - NOW.
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                #112
                Originally posted by Radcliff View Post
                Maybe we will get the latest kde frameworks 5.81 this week, but it's getting late.
                Already too late. The Ubuntu release-team were a little hesitant at approving the freeze exception for 5.80.0 a month ago, so 5.81.0 at this late stage is a no-go. Crucial cherry-picked bugfix patches from 5.81 applied to 5.80.0 can still go in if needed. 5.81.0 will be in backports PPA on release day for anyone who really wants the whole thing.
                On #kubuntu-devel & #kubuntu on libera.chat - IRC Nick: RikMills - Launchpad ID: click
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                  #113
                  Wayland session

                  Originally posted by acheron View Post
                  Already too late. The Ubuntu release-team were a little hesitant at approving the freeze exception for 5.80.0 a month ago, so 5.81.0 at this late stage is a no-go. Crucial cherry-picked bugfix patches from 5.81 applied to 5.80.0 can still go in if needed. 5.81.0 will be in backports PPA on release day for anyone who really wants the whole thing.
                  If we were left on our appetite at this stage in Groovy, it is not the case of Hirsute. Kubuntu 21.04 is up to date and I don't mind about not having kde frameworks 5.81.

                  We have tested Wayland for a long time now and it is working properly. The mouse hesitation is gone now. Also, the IPTV player Hypnotix got a workaround this winter and works now with the following cmd line that opens many other apps:

                  Code:
                  GDK_BACKEND=x11 hypnotix
                  Code:
                  echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
plasmawayland
                  For those who may want to jump, Saturday would be better. Unless the version you are running is bug free, a clean install is by far the best thing to do. Major updates are in the latest ISO.

                  I don't have any bugs to report since 3 weeks, even latte-dock default works fine. Not to say that I feel that Hirsute is the best version ever made by our team. +1

                  All the best,
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                    #114
                    Hi NoWorries!

                    woodsmoke
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                      #115
                      MOK fails at work xwayland xserver updates

                      Important security fix today (last 3), the first package or maybe others caused a secure boot issue. Mainline Kernel no longer boots unless secure boot is disabled. sudo mokutil --disable-validation has no effect by now. First time I see that bug.

                      Code:
                      grep "upgrade " /var/log/dpkg.log
...
2021-04-13 10:36:40 upgrade shim-signed:amd64 1.45+15+1552672080.a4a1fbe-0ubuntu2 1.46+15.4-0ubuntu1
2021-04-13 18:26:22 upgrade libqt5svg5:amd64 5.15.2-2 5.15.2-3
2021-04-13 18:26:22 upgrade ubuntu-minimal:amd64 1.466 1.467
2021-04-13 18:26:22 upgrade ubuntu-standard:amd64 1.466 1.467
2021-04-13 18:26:22 upgrade python3-problem-report:all 2.20.11-0ubuntu63 2.20.11-0ubuntu64
2021-04-13 18:26:23 upgrade python3-apport:all 2.20.11-0ubuntu63 2.20.11-0ubuntu64
2021-04-13 18:26:23 upgrade apport:all 2.20.11-0ubuntu63 2.20.11-0ubuntu64
2021-04-13 18:26:23 upgrade apport-kde:all 2.20.11-0ubuntu63 2.20.11-0ubuntu64
2021-04-13 18:26:23 upgrade xserver-common:all 2:1.20.10-3ubuntu7 2:1.20.11-1ubuntu1
2021-04-13 18:26:23 upgrade xserver-xorg-legacy:amd64 2:1.20.10-3ubuntu7 2:1.20.11-1ubuntu1
2021-04-13 18:26:23 upgrade xserver-xorg-core:amd64 2:1.20.10-3ubuntu7 2:1.20.11-1ubuntu1
2021-04-13 18:26:23 upgrade xwayland:amd64 2:21.0.99.902-0ubuntu1 2:21.1.1-0ubuntu1
                      Also, since post #98, our ThinkPad booted 2-3 times in MoK with an unusual response: system reset. I would expect to see that one today.

                      Not the case, must keep secure boot disabled. Must add the fact that apport is disabled and that may also be an interference.
                      Last edited by Radcliff; Apr 13, 2021, 05:09 PM.
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                        #116
                        Originally posted by woodsmoke View Post
                        Hi NoWorries!

                        woodsmoke
                        A Very Warm Welcome to you woodsmoke. I am sure you will find this an amazing distribution and I look forward to your contributions.
                        Last edited by NoWorries; Apr 13, 2021, 07:16 PM.
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                          #117
                          Secure boot issue defect installation

                          Booting in Wayland default, does not fix the secure boot issue.

                          This bug has an indication to delete the install, WE LOST THE SECURITY BEEP when entering or inside the BIOS. Unless the sound is muted, it is always an indication of a defect install.

                          The MoK manager bug comes from the X security updates and probably the mixture of shim this morning, nowhere else.

                          ***

                          For booting in MoK with <<reset system>> option, take good note that a ThinkPad has the option in the BIOS to reset Secure Boot key's default. MoK doesn't like it since recent security updates.
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                            #118
                            MoK manager needs attention

                            20210411 ISO

                            Redo the fresh install with secure boot disabled and MOK inactive (--enable-validation). No luck after update manager full content, the same issue remains when re-enabling MoK and secure boot.

                            MoK is not working anymore, at boot Kernel 5.12-rc7 returns the following errors:

                            error: Invalid signature
                            error: you need to load the Kernel fisrt.

                            Code:
                            mokutil --sb
SecureBoot enabled
SecureBoot validation is disabled in shim
uname -a
5.11.0-14-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 8 21:39:23 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
                            Security beep works correctly this morning:

                            Code:
                            mokutil --sb
SecureBoot disabled
uname -a
5.12.0-051200rc7-generic #202104112331 SMP Sun Apr 11 23:34:31 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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                              #119
                              Shim or xwayland issue

                              Knowing that only xserver is in Proposed this morning and in order to isolate this secure boot issue, the bug is in regular updates. Just made a second fresh install and the problem is in the following packages. Xserver is not part of the equation:

                              Must be shim or xwayland:

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                              grep "upgrade " /var/log/dpkg.log
2021-04-11 05:27:10 upgrade dpkg 1.20.7.1ubuntu4 1.20.7.1ubuntu4
2021-04-11 05:27:12 upgrade base-files:amd64 11ubuntu18 11ubuntu18
2021-04-11 05:27:12 upgrade base-passwd:amd64 3.5.49 3.5.49
2021-04-11 05:27:13 upgrade debconf:all 1.5.74 1.5.74
2021-04-11 05:27:13 upgrade dpkg:amd64 1.20.7.1ubuntu4 1.20.7.1ubuntu4
2021-04-11 05:27:14 upgrade libc6:amd64 2.33-0ubuntu5 2.33-0ubuntu5
2021-04-11 05:27:16 upgrade mawk:amd64 1.3.4.20200120-2 1.3.4.20200120-2
2021-04-11 05:27:17 upgrade perl-base:amd64 5.32.1-3ubuntu2 5.32.1-3ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade libnss-systemd:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade libsystemd0:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade systemd-timesyncd:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade systemd-sysv:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:58 upgrade libpam-systemd:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:59 upgrade systemd:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:09:59 upgrade udev:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:10:00 upgrade libudev1:amd64 247.3-3ubuntu2 247.3-3ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:10:00 upgrade python3-minimal:amd64 3.9.2-2 3.9.4-1
2021-04-14 11:10:00 upgrade python3:amd64 3.9.2-2 3.9.4-1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade libpython3-stdlib:amd64 3.9.2-2 3.9.4-1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade libatomic1:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade libquadmath0:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade gcc-11-base:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:01 upgrade libstdc++6:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libobjc4:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libgomp1:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libgfortran5:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libgcc-s1:amd64 11-20210404-1ubuntu1 11-20210412-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libqt5svg5:amd64 5.15.2-2 5.15.2-3
2021-04-14 11:10:02 upgrade libsane1:amd64 1.0.32-0ubuntu1 1.0.32-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade libsane-common:all 1.0.32-0ubuntu1 1.0.32-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade sane-utils:amd64 1.0.32-0ubuntu1 1.0.32-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade ubuntu-drivers-common:amd64 1:0.8.7 1:0.8.9.1
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade libnettle8:amd64 3.7-2.1 3.7-2.1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:03 upgrade libhogweed6:amd64 3.7-2.1 3.7-2.1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade ubuntu-minimal:amd64 1.466 1.467
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt:all 1:21.04.7 1:21.04.8
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-core:all 1:21.04.7 1:21.04.8
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade python3-distupgrade:all 1:21.04.7 1:21.04.8
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade ubuntu-standard:amd64 1.466 1.467
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade cpp:amd64 4:10.2.0-1ubuntu1 4:10.3.0-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:04 upgrade firefox:amd64 87.0+build3-0ubuntu3 87.0+build3-0ubuntu4
2021-04-14 11:10:09 upgrade fonts-opensymbol:all 2:102.12+LibO7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 2:102.12+LibO7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:amd64 1.18.3-1ubuntu1 1.18.4-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade libgstreamer-plugins-good1.0-0:amd64 1.18.3-1ubuntu1 1.18.4-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio:amd64 1.18.3-1ubuntu1 1.18.4-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade network-manager:amd64 1.30.0-1ubuntu2 1.30.0-1ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:10:10 upgrade libnm0:amd64 1.30.0-1ubuntu2 1.30.0-1ubuntu3
2021-04-14 11:10:11 upgrade libqt5webenginecore5:amd64 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:14 upgrade libqt5webengine5:amd64 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:14 upgrade libqt5webenginewidgets5:amd64 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:14 upgrade libqt5webengine-data:all 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-sal3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-salhelpergcc3-3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-cppu3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade ure:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade uno-libs-private:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:15 upgrade libreoffice-calc:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:16 upgrade libreoffice-impress:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-draw:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-kf5:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-qt5:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-base-core:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:17 upgrade libreoffice-math:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:18 upgrade libreoffice-common:all 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:19 upgrade python3-uno:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:19 upgrade libreoffice-plasma:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:20 upgrade libreoffice-writer:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:21 upgrade libreoffice-core:amd64 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:24 upgrade libreoffice-style-colibre:all 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:24 upgrade libreoffice-style-breeze:all 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu2
2021-04-14 11:10:24 upgrade linux-base:all 4.5ubuntu4 4.5ubuntu5
2021-04-14 11:10:32 upgrade linux-generic:amd64 5.11.0.13.14 5.11.0.14.15
2021-04-14 11:10:32 upgrade linux-image-generic:amd64 5.11.0.13.14 5.11.0.14.15
2021-04-14 11:10:37 upgrade linux-headers-generic:amd64 5.11.0.13.14 5.11.0.14.15
2021-04-14 11:10:37 upgrade python3-pexpect:all 4.6.0-4 4.8.0-1ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:38 upgrade qml-module-qtwebengine:amd64 5.15.3+dfsg-3ubuntu1 5.15.3+dfsg-5
2021-04-14 11:10:38 [B][COLOR=#ff0000]upgrade shim:amd64 15+1552672080.a4a1fbe-0ubuntu2 15.4-0ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:38 upgrade shim-signed:amd64 1.45+15+1552672080.a4a1fbe-0ubuntu2 1.46+15.4-0ubuntu1
2021-04-14 11:10:38 upgrade xwayland:amd64 2:21.0.99.902-0ubuntu1 2:21.1.1-0ubuntu1[/COLOR][/B]
2021-04-14 11:10:38 upgrade usrmerge:all 24ubuntu1 24ubuntu3
                              Last edited by Radcliff; Apr 14, 2021, 09:36 AM.
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                                #120
                                On my HP system I have Secure Boot disabled in the BIOS and I never change this setting.

                                Also, my Kernel is Linux 5.11.0-14-generic. I notice that in post #118 above, you had Kernel 5.12-rc7 which did not work, but 5.11.0 does.

                                The other difference is that I use KDE Plasma and NOT Wayland. I have installed Wayland packages to test it out and have found it unsatisfactory. If you boot up with Plasma, or X11, does your system work?
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