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    Help needed installing astrology software OpenAstro via the last UBUNTU repository:

    UPDATE Here's 1 of the last archived versions: https://web.archive.org/web/20211202...openastro.org/ of openstro with instructions to install without a repsository if need be. Thank you claydoh​ My brain is hazy on how to do this the right way. As so ANY tips and clues that anyone voluntarily posts are duly appreciated, not demanded. No sympathy is asked for from anyone. Here's my last go round with MXlinux23 https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...on-4175746672/ , the people MXLinux forums https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic....d5b05ca4c32ef2 b01e64e2&start=20 of which considered mixing and matching Ubuntu/PPA repositories with their Debian and other repositories as heresy. It is frustrating to seem like I'm the only person who wants this old software updated and far more convenient. It's beautiful when it works and has a lot of potential to be improved. I went through this with the same PC I was tinkering with last Winter, except now here I'm on a clean Kubuntu install the MX destroied. Here again is the link to 1 of the last archived versions: https://web.archive.org/web/20211202...nastro.org/​
    ----------------
    HERE'S MY failed attempt to install OpenAstro via the last UBUNTU repository LIKE these https://launchpad.net/~pellesimon/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    instructions say:


    BigRichardHEAD@kubuntuUser:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa pellesimon/ppa
    [sudo] password for BigRichardHEAD:
    Repository: 'Types: deb
    URIs: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/ppa/ubuntu/
    Suites: noble
    Components: main
    '
    Description:
    Packages for the openastro.org astrology program
    More info: https://launchpad.net/~pellesimon/+archive/ubuntu/pp
    a
    Adding repository.
    Press [ENTER] to continue or Ctrl-c to cancel.^CAborted.

    BigRichardHEAD@abraxkmart6:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppaellesi
    mon/ppa
    Repository: 'Types: deb
    URIs: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/ppa/ubuntu/
    Suites: noble
    Components: main
    '
    Description:
    Packages for the openastro.org astrology program
    More info: https://launchpad.net/~pellesimon/+archive/ubuntu/pp
    a
    Adding repository.
    Press [ENTER] to continue or Ctrl-c to cancel.
    Found existing deb entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pellesimon-
    ubuntu-ppa-noble.sources
    Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble InRelease
    Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates InRelea
    se
    Hit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-backports InRel
    ease
    Hit:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-security InReleas
    e
    Ign:5 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/ppa/ubuntu no
    ble InRelease
    Err:6 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/ppa/ubuntu no
    ble Release
    404 Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.80 443]
    Reading package lists... Done
    E: The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/
    ppa/ubuntu noble Release' does not have a Release file.
    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and
    is therefore disabled by default.
    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user c
    onfiguration details.

    BigRichardHEAD@abraxkmart6:~$ sudo apt update
    Hit:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble InRelease
    Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates InRelea
    se

    openastro
    openastro: command not found
    BigRichardHEAD@abraxkmart6:~$


    Last edited by antarctictaco020125; Jul 06, 2025, 10:05 PM.

    #2


    The error message is appropriate:
    Originally posted by antarctictaco020125 View Post
    Code:
    Err:6 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/ppa/ubuntu noble Release
    404 Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.80 443]
    Reading package lists... Done
    E: The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/
    ppa/ubuntu noble Release' does not have a Release file.
    This is saying that there are no files for ubuntu Noble (aka 24.04)


    Note on that PPA's page how old the last update is.
    Then check which Ubuntu releases it has packages for.​

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    14 year old software sometimes stops working especially as dependencies die off.
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      #3
      " E: The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/ppa/ubuntu Focal Release' does not have a Release file.
      W: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
      W: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
      E: The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/pellesimon/ppa/ubuntu noble Release' does not have a Release file.
      W: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
      W: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details."
      ==================================================
      ​Here's 1 of the last archived versions: https://web.archive.org/web/20211202...openastro.org/ of openstro with instructions to install without a repsository if need be. Thank you claydoh​ My brain is hazy on how to do this the right way. As so ANY tips and clues that anyone voluntarily posts are duly appreciated, not demanded. No sympathy is asked for from anyone. Here's my last go round with MXlinux23 https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...on-4175746672/ , the people MXLinux forums https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=83569&sid=4a44f08fd5d5b05ca4c32ef2 b01e64e2&start=20 of which considered mixing and matching Ubuntu/PPA repositories with their Debian and other repositories as heresy. It is frustrating to seem like I'm the only person who wants this old software updated and far more convenient. It's beautiful when it works and has a lot of potential to be improved. I went through this with the same PC I was tinkering with last Winter, except now here I'm on a clean Kubuntu install, and the MXLinux23 destroyed. Here again is the link to 1 of the last archived versions: https://web.archive.org/web/20211202...openastro.org/ ! October 2018
      Last edited by antarctictaco020125; Jul 06, 2025, 10:23 PM.

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        #4
        Since there are no files for ubuntu Noble (aka 24.04), then this last archived version
        10-Oct-2018
        https://web.archive.org/web/20211020....org/?Download seems more than appropriate

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          #5
          sudo apt-get install openastro.org
          Reading package lists... Done
          Building dependency tree... Done
          Reading state information... Done
          E: Unable to locate package openastro.org
          E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'openastro.org'
          E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'openastro.org'

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            #6
            Not that it matters, but I see no actually downloadable files on Archive ,org.

            Also note that the archived download page states these packages are 32-bit, which itself adds another layer of outdated mess to the task......


            Originally posted by antarctictaco020125 View Post
            sudo apt-get install openastro.org
            you would need to specify the path to the file

            Or make sure you cd to the dir in the terminal, and use sudo apt install ./name-of-the-package.deb

            Or, easiest is to just double click the file.


            BUT
            I and quite positive it won't work because other dependencies it needs no longer exist. It is 14 year old software that no one has updated since these needed packages and software went away.


            side notes:
            MX linux, being based on Debian, won't support Ubuntu PPAs as they really don't work on non-Ubuntu based systems. There are enough differences between Ubuntu and Debian that they do not work. It isn't heresy, it is incompatible. Like trying to use a DeWalt battery on a Makita drill.



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              #7
              I don't believe this is impossible to install on Kubuntu: There's instructions for a generic installation here: https://web.archive.org/web/20190207....org/?Download

              Quote: "

              Generic Linux Installation
              You can also manually build openastro.org, the pyswisseph module and the ephemeris files.
              Make sure you can get these dependencies satisfied to run the program:
              • python3-dateutil
              • gir1.2-rsvg-2.0
              • gir1.2-gtk-3.0
              • python3-tz
              • python3-dev
              • python3-cairo
              • imagemagick
              • librsvg2-bin
              ​ "
              AND there should be back compatible versions of all those listed "dependencies" / software components
              ========================


              https://sourceforge.net/projects/openastro-org/files/
              OpenAstro.org Source openastro.org_1.1.57.orig.tar.gz
              OpenAstro.org-data Source openastro.org-data_1.9.orig.tar.gz
              ===========================================

              https://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/...stro.org-data/

              https://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/testrepo/pool/test/p/python3-swisseph/


              https://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/...openastro.org/
              Last edited by antarctictaco020125; Jul 07, 2025, 11:25 PM.

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                #8
                While waiting for the detailed version of this post being approved: these 3 links matter with all the data: https://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/...stro.org-data/ + https://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/...openastro.org/ +http://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/t...hon3-swisseph/
                Last edited by Snowhog; Jul 11, 2025, 09:43 AM. Reason: Hyerlinking not required when posting the actual URLs

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by antarctictaco020125 View Post
                  You can also manually build openastro.org,
                  So try and build it then?

                  Originally posted by antarctictaco020125 View Post
                  I don't believe this is impossible to install on Kubuntu:
                  So manually install the deb packages , the ones that have amd64 or all in the filename, and not labeled dbgsym. it will tell you what is missing, but do be aware that any dep breakages , even if unlikely (depending on any missing items), are still possible, and adding any MX repo info to Kubuntu (or any other distro) WILL cause issues.
                  Last edited by claydoh; Jul 08, 2025, 12:52 AM.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by claydoh View Post
                    So try and build it then?


                    So manually install the deb packages , the ones that have amd64 or all in the filename, and not labeled dbgsym. it will tell you what is missing, but do be aware that any dep breakages , even if unlikely (depending on any missing items), are still possible, and adding any MX repo info to Kubuntu (or any other distro) WILL cause issues.
                    Here's the road block:

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                      #11
                      Qapt.....sucks. I forget that it still exists in 24.04
                      Use discover directly (right-clik and open-with) or use apt install or dpkg -i. I think Discover will have better erro reporting, and the command-line tools definitely will. A good guess is the this package needs one of the others. or there are dependency layers that may or may not be fill-able.
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                        #12
                        also missing one:

                        https://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/...stro.org-data/

                        but the version doesn't match the main application deb, so this may not work.
                        Last edited by claydoh; Jul 10, 2025, 11:41 PM.
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                          #13
                          It would be nice if ubuntu team wouldn't flood updates with untested weird beta versions of something as elementary as the good old fassion terminal command line keyboard interface. re: konsole (the terminal program for KDE) Left click mouse won't even allow insert mode for the the cursor in front of text https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comment...or_in_konsole/ so I thought maybe Yakuaka (just as bad as Konsole), https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal "GNOME Terminal is a terminal emulator application for accessing a UNIX shell environment which can be used to run programs available on your system.It supports several profiles, multiple tabs and implements several keyboard shortcuts.​" works better. And THAT and another sucks even worse. There's no way to zoom and adjust the text size. I never had this kind of buggy terminal software before 4 for 4.​

                          This is what is spit in the terminal when I try and toggle the insert key
                          "
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                          Last edited by antarctictaco020125; Jul 16, 2025, 10:09 PM.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by claydoh View Post
                            Qapt.....sucks. I forget that it still exists in 24.04
                            Use discover directly (right-clik and open-with) or use apt install or dpkg -i. I think Discover will have better erro reporting, and the command-line tools definitely will. A good guess is the this package needs one of the others. or there are dependency layers that may or may not be fill-able.
                            tarded@butNOTfullretard:~/Downloads/THEFOLDER [WHERE openastro.org_1.1.57-0mx23+1_all.deb actually is! ]$ sudo apt install openastro.org_1.1.57-0mx23+1_all.deb
                            [sudo] password for NOTfullretardMACHINE: {PASSWORD ENTERED}
                            Reading package lists... Done
                            Building dependency tree... Done
                            Reading state information... Done
                            E: Unable to locate package openastro.org_1.1.57-0mx23+1_all.deb
                            tarded@butNOTfullretard:~/Downloads/THEFOLDER$​​
                            Last edited by antarctictaco020125; Jul 16, 2025, 10:18 PM.

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