[System] switch from discover to muon

[Makko]

hello,

there is a way to change the software manager from discover to muon?
i think the one used by ubuntu it's lighter and i like to switch to that if possible.
if it's possible do it with konsole commands it's better.

thanks for any help

[Snowhog]

If you have Muon Package Manager installed, just run it. You are not required to use Discover.

[Makko]

yes i have already installed muon, but all updates are connected to discover

the only way i know to make to work as i want is (i think it will work, but i still have to try it) to install ubuntu and then with the console
sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
then choose SDDM as display mananger.

but i like something quicker and avoid to burn another DVD to do as above

[claydoh]

Muon itself does not have an update notifier/installer systray applet, and the updater systray icon may be hard coded to use Discover, so an option is to install Ubuntu's update-manager package (and remove plasma-discover) , and see if it can run in a plasma systray. I doubt it will be whole lot "lighter" as it will add and use a different set of libraries from what you already have running on your system.

Or use Muon to manually check and install updates, which is essentially the same as using the commandline.

[jglen490]

Updates aren't tied to one GUI or another. You can use whatever you want to install upgrades or install new packages. While Synaptic, Muon, and Discover may make use of some different library files, under the hood the hard work is done by the same scripts. What I usually do when a notice shows that upgrades are available, is go to the command line and do the upgrades with apt-get. if I'm looking for a new package, either Synaptic or Muon will do the same work.

[Makko]

Updates aren't tied to one GUI or another. You can use whatever you want to install upgrades or install new packages. While Synaptic, Muon, and Discover may make use of some different library files, under the hood the hard work is done by the same scripts. What I usually do when a notice shows that upgrades are available, is go to the command line and do the upgrades with apt-get. if I'm looking for a new package, either Synaptic or Muon will do the same work.

do you mean there is a console command to get updates? so i can update kubuntu without need to run discover?

[Makko]

do you mean there is a console command to get updates? so i can update kubuntu without need to run discover?

i have found

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

and it work!

get updates with the console it's the best!

[oshunluvr]

i have found

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

and it work!

get updates with the console it's the best!

Yes, LOL.

It's commonly recommended to always use "dist-upgrade" and not "upgrade" because "upgrade" will not add or remove packages, even when it's a good idea.

There's a newer command line tool to use that has good feature. It's called "apt" and for the most part, it works exactly like apt-get. one difference is you would use "full-upgrade" rather than "dist-upgrade". I suspect that change was made because many people were confused into thinking that "dist-upgrade" would upgrade the distro version (i.e. move you from 17.10 to 18.04) rather than just upgrade your packages.

The new command that apt offers is "list", which when run by itself lists all the installed packages. But the best use of "list" is after running "update" to run "list --upgradable" which will then list all packages set to upgrade by apt. So try this:

sudo apt update
sudo apt list --upgradable
sudo apt full-upgrade

[jglen490]

Yep! What ^ said