systemd - Upstart - Ubuntu

[verndog]

I have been installing Arch of late. Actually I've been re-introducting myself to Arch. It has been several years since I used it. One program kept coming up - systemd.

I didn't think much of it and just thought its "Arch's way of doing things". Then today several topics of systmd popped up on Fedora forums.
So I looked a little closer. It appears in just a few short years , systemd has gathered support by leaps and bounds, with one exception...Ubuntu.

At least for the time being. I looked at my UbuntuGnome install and there are several libraries and directories for systemd, but Upstart is running the show.

Here's some interesting reads:

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html#comments

https://plus.google.com/115547683951...ts/ZZWLtq6tYdn

Ubuntu's Steve Langasek quantry:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...il/035129.html

Ubuntu stating polkit security breach:
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1961-1/

Last, but not least, Arch intro:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Journal


If Arch, Fedora and a few others follow systemd , and Ubuntu refuses, ignores, or just keeps Upstart, this may very well be a straw that breaks the camels back. API's will be effected and no more upstream swimming....Do you see the writing in the Mir(ror)

[SteveRiley]

ConsoleKit is dead, dead, dead. So Ubuntu has decided to replace it with systemd-logind.

Does any other distro use just one bit of systemd? I'm not aware of any. Arch's agility allows relatively rapid changes to fundamental elements of their build (initscripts/sysvinit to systemd, the /usr merge). I think it would be expensive in terms of time and money for Canonical to switch Ubuntu from Upstart to systemd.