respectful request devs of video editing software

[claydoh]

If every phone is taking the video and it needs rotating, mebbe the phone needs to be held sideways (as it is designed to be held for video)?

Both my phones' files are sideways if i hold the camera upright: both the 3 year old model and the the now one-year old one.

You are seeing/wanting to see something like this: http://claydoh.com/vid-test/ ?
A before and after quickie. I saved as mp4 as the wordpress doesn't want to embed a player for the video in avi format; that is another format option for smaller file size and universality.

As to the cli, I meant that all the gui tools such as Avidemux are using something non-gui to manipulate the files, no matter what the OS. I don't use a terminal to mess with video; seeing the options with some sort of context is nice, as well as is having the Preview button

[woodsmoke]

Hi
I stated why .wmv in the post, because the students will be using windblows computers.

As to stateing it here I've tried making requests at various irqs, etc. and was basically blown off.

As to cli, this is something that, one would think, would have moved beyond years ago for a seemingly simple thing like conversion and rotation, seemingly VERY basic things.

The particular problem is with the mpeg4 produced by every single android phone that is used.

If the devs are just working "abstractly" on the apps as abstractions then the situation is of little consequence to them, which is the normal reply one gets when one makes requests.

As long as one stays completely within the fence of "Linux" then things run pretty well, just don't get to close to the fence.

And, as a consequence those who are long time users of Linux should not rail against the sky about "why don't people use Linux?"

So again, I am well cognizant of the great strides made by the devs.

But in an ever increasingly "smart phone centric" world.... the number of people who say "i need to be able to do this" will increase.

woodsmoke

[whatthefunk]

I dont hink this is the place to make such a request. Kubuntu devs drop by occassionally but I dont think anyone from Blue Systems is here and if they are, I dont know how seriously they would take a post like this. Rather than just assume that what you want to do cant be done currently, maybe you should start a help request thread. Although I dont do much video editing/converting, I have had no trouble converting video in the past...

[claydoh]

IA Couple of questions, to help get a ball rolling, discussion-wise:

Why wmv?
What about simply converting, i.e. not using an editor to convert? All the editors are using one of the command line tools to do that work. (I know this goes against The One Tool ideal) Avidemux comes to mind, as I used to use it to shrink t.v. shows down from HD quality to where I could fit a Number of episodes onto a DVD. This as well as Handbrake have presets for different uses and devices, such as phones/iPods etc. Avidemux can rotate video as well.

You have not said which you have used, or specified which one has which problem.

I will weasel my way out of taking about the problem and leave thoughts on complexity of creating video editing software, the bazaar, and Blue System's size and influence and funds (or rather the lack of them) to others


tl;dr taking a bazaar and forcing it to become a cathedral might not work any better than what we have now, and there are good tools available specifically to accomplish the task you need. Why did there have to be one monolithic thing?

Wow, it's 4 a.m., what am I doing awake at this hour?

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[woodsmoke]

One video editor does "this"

Another video does "that"

A third does a "bit of this and a bit of that".

There is one, only one, video editor that will reliably covert an "mpeg4" to "wmv". This kind of conversion REALLY IS needed by a variety of people, such as the old woodsmoker, who was requested by the college to "make a video" to put up on Blackboard to introduce myself to the students.

I made a video of me at a dive shop talking about how I use the SCUBA equipment to illustrate things in my Physical Science classes.

Wellll the problem is that........ the video is HUGE even on a Galaxy SIII. And it requires a relatively good machine to view the video.

MOST students will not have a "relatively good machine".....they usually have hand me downs.

So, I wanted to convert the mpeg4 to just a plain mpeg and also to .wmv, because, at least one, of the two files "should" be viewable on just about any OS.

And I entered video editing hell.

The problem is......that the phone's video.... when it ends up in the linux distro file system....

is rotated 90 degrees .....

and when the video editor tries to deal with it,

well i won't go into details.

But when attempting to do any type of conversion, using any of the editors...

a) the video may be rotated but all of a sudden it is three times normal width. And when going back to retry the "fill in the blank" to reshape the video...nothing happens.
b) Another editor will convert a video but won't rotate it.
c) another rotates randomly if one puts in rotate right it rotates left or flips,
d) another offers rotating and rotating and flipping and the rotation and flipping is random as to how it ends up.

After HOURS of doing conversions I was finally able to end up with a conversion to .wmv that was correctly oriented vertically.

I could NOT get that to convert to any other format such as .avi, that was in the correct x - y proportion AND also not "fat".

Believe me when I say.............I KNOW WHAT STRIDES HAVE BEEN MADE. After all I am the OLD woodsmoke, several people at this forum can attest that I have been around since the first of Xandros days.

So............my respectful request.

Why not have a "summer of code" financed by Blue Systems and respectfully request that ALL of the developers for ALL of the video editing applications meet at the summer of code, PAID by Blue Systems, for which Blue Systems will request that the community at large offer donations of CASH to finance the travel expenses and lodging of the developers.

The result of the summer of code to be:

a) ALL video editor applications end up with a "core" of software that will "convert" between the various formats, and provide reliable "rotation".
b) the DIFFERENT application developers can then develop their interface/GUI and particular methodology so that each developer can concentrate on "method" as opposed to the underlying software.
c) the DIFFERENT application developers can then add on any bells and whistles, again, to differentiate their particular app from the other apps.

just a respectful request from someone who has watched the great progresssion of the software but, by this time it would seem that..... as so eloquently stated in the Cathedral and the Bazaar....

it would seem that the various inhabitants of the bazaar should get together to show what the bazaar can do on these two basic things that just about everybody needs if they need the software at all.

woodrespectfulsmoke