Why two sources??

[ossi]

I had a look at Kubuntu.org and been wondering why there ist two sources for information for Kubuntu. There is a section on ubuntuforums.org and that one here - kubuntuforums.net. Why splitting the support?

I think there only should be one international forum as a central source of info for people interested in Kubuntu. You would not need to search a lot of different sources if you have a problem and the community would get more attention if it was part of ubuntuforums I guess. I don't see the point for splitting. What do people here think about it?

[kubicle]

Re: Why two sources??

This has been discussed before on both forums, but I'll share my views nevertheless.

I think having multiple forums is an asset rather than hindrance...I'd like to think it leads to 'twice the support' not 'half the support'...with easy searches and cross-referencing the information should be easily available on both forums. (After all...there are numerous local forums for either, they all seem to add support not split it.)

Some people like one or the other better (for various reasons) and some use both and cross-post quite happily.

Having specialized forums does have it advantages (just think about having one centralized linuxforums for all distros...things could get confusing). I admit, the analogy isn't perfect as both ubuntu and kubuntu share the same base (and differ 'only' on the desktop)..but it can still lead to confusion (like someone offering a gnome solution to a kde problem).

Anyway, both forums have their benefits. Ubuntuforums are older and bigger, which means there are more posts and posters which again means there are more experts around (and more troublemakers, although ubuntuforums are fairly clean for it's large size ), so you'll most likely get a quicker answer especially to very specialized questions (like questions about rare hardware)...Kubuntuforums on the other hand provide a smaller KDE oriented forum which makes some people feel more at home here (I also prefer the interface, functions and structure here)

Here are a few related topics on these forums:
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=106.0
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=61.0
You can find more with the search feature

[aysiu]

Re: Why two sources??

The way I see it:

If you want answers to obscure questions and difficult problems, go to the Ubuntu Forums.

If you want to be assured you won't be given Gnome solutions to KDE problems, go to the Kubuntu Forums.

[ossi]

Re: Why two sources??

I almost thought there was already such a topic - but anyway, I still don't see the point. Sure, one place for all distros would be too confusing - but its one distro, isn't it? I guess there is a general decision which has got to be made and deals with the Kubuntu is related to Ubuntu and the other Canonical Projects.

Is it just a different Interface or is more to it? I mean, I think Ubuntu has got a very great spirit and was the reason for me becoming Linux user - on the other hand, overall seen, I think KDE is better from its concept. Combining the two of them is a very good idea, but I see a problem these days the Kubuntu is isolating itself in a way which is disturbing. There is a big Community for Ubuntu and I think it would be better for Kubuntu to be part of that and not to become something on it's own. Just my 2 cents...

[Open Source]

Re: Why two sources??

I appreciate your comments about the forums, but please read past posts in the Site Improvements forum and such. This topic has been overly debated. See this post for an example.

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=509.0

Thanks,
OS

[ossi]

Re: Why two sources??

Okok, I got it. Its great that you show a lot of interest in the project and really DO something about it. The whole project is living from people like you. Anyway, overall seen, Ubuntu is quite small and young. Such projects live from the people supporting it, I guess. And these people have to make sure that they head in the same direction - this is not happening by creating a lot of national forums and other forums all around the web.

ubuntuforums.org is a busy spot - but I guess it is because of the Gnome users, not the KDE users. Let's see what happens at Linux Tag and where to course is gonna be set. Thats it from me.

[kubicle]

Re: Why two sources??

but I guess it is because of the Gnome users, not the KDE users.

That kind of remarks sort of discredit all the good kde people helping out on ubuntuforums, not a very constructive attitude :P

[aysiu]

Re: Why two sources??

but I guess it is because of the Gnome users, not the KDE users.

That kind of remarks sort of discredit all the good kde people helping out on ubuntuforums, not a very constructive attitude :P

I'm a KDE user on the Ubuntu Forums, and I don't think it discredits me at all. The truth is that Gnome users make up the majority of the membership at Ubuntu Forums, so they are largely responsible for how busy it is. It's just a numbers thing--it's not saying KDE users are not helpful there, only that they're not plentiful there.

In this poll, Gnome got 66% of the votes--yes, it's a multiple choice poll (meaning that each voter can select more than one option), but it still beat out KDE, which got only 23%.

[kubicle]

Re: Why two sources??

it's not saying KDE users are not helpful there, only that they're not plentiful there.

To me it looked exactly like saying just that.

But I may have read too much into the comment...and if I did, I apologize for judging too harshly.