Canonical being silly again - Can this not be in Kubuntu, please?

[chimak111]

Oops! That kdialog ...

[oshunluvr]

Just tried again - over three minutes then the mouse pointer stopped spinning, but as soon as I tried to change folders, it began again. Nothing in "top" or "iotop" shows any actually actions are happening. I'ts broken.

[oshunluvr]

I felt that was off-topic and not really worth expanding on at this point. On this new install, trying to add an image to a post using Vivaldi browser opens the kdialog window file selector. It just "spins" for longer than I'm willing to wait it out - over a minute.

[chimak111]

but kdialog simply isn't working at this point

I have a very simple kdialog script and that's working in a clean Kubuntu 18.04 install.

#!/usr/bin/env bash

time=$(kdialog --title "Input dialog" --inputbox "Enter a number (minutes)"  2>/dev/null)

find ~/ \
! -name ".xsession-errors" \
! -name "katerc" \
! -name "kwinrulesrc" \
! -name "katemetainfos" \
! -name "dolphinrc" \
! -name ".bash_history" \
! -name "recently-used.xbel" \
...
-cmin -$time -type f -ls

where the ...

is just a long list of more excluded paths.

[chimak111]

I'm guessing Kubuntu 18.04 doesn't have it. See https://i.stack.imgur.com/f7MLm.png and https://askubuntu.com/questions/1027...mation-reports for context.

I did a clean install and should have seen it if it's that obvious.

[oshunluvr]

The linked post above is a suggestion for a change from a user and has nothing to do with current reality. Posting this from a new and fully updated Kubuntu 18.04 installation and popcon is not installed.

I would post a screen-shot proving this for the paranoid crowd, but kdialog simply isn't working at this point - an example of why I typically wait before using a new Kubuntu release.

[TWPonKubuntu]

I guess I've opted in or not opted out.

I did a full install of Kubuntu 18.04 (release version) and don't remember seeing any related interface.

Link from an earlier post in this thread, dated in February 2018. Things may have changed since then:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ry/040139.html

quoted from that link:

Any user can simply opt out by unchecking the box, which triggers one
simple POST stating, “diagnostics=false”. There will be a corresponding
checkbox in the Privacy panel of GNOME Settings to toggle the state of this.

Note that that is for the GNOME DE, I don't know what the other flavors of 18.04 might have.

[chimak111]

I guess I've opted in or not opted out.

I did a full install of Kubuntu 18.04 (release version) and don't remember seeing any related interface.

[TWPonKubuntu]

Woodsmoke is my mentor!

I recommend emulation in some things taught by our Woodmeister.

Though I try to control the ellipsis syndrome...

[SpecialEd]

But... but... but.. SpecialEd, surely you agree that we need to vent our feelings in a socially acceptable forum (kudos to KubuntuForums.net) in a calm and collected manner.>>>>>>>>

Uh oh!, You been talking to Woody?

[TWPonKubuntu]

But... but... but.. SpecialEd, surely you agree that we need to vent our feelings in a socially acceptable forum (kudos to KubuntuForums.net) in a calm and collected manner.

Think of it as a pressure release mechanism in a society which is under increasing pressure to Conform.

Somebody has to hit the button to vent that overpressure or the system could well explode. History teaches this.

Be aware, when a mechanism is blocked, whether by under or overzealous "pressure monitors" or a failure of the original design (I give you Facebook(r) ), the back pressure leads to a mechanism which explodes or collapses from lack of support (I give you OS/2 and AOL).

Rather than "agree to disagree", instead support your local chapter of malcontents and curmudgeons in their effort to "stir the pot". Active enrollment programs are always offered, free of charge.

We have the best of intentions, ie. to make people aware of potential potholes in the road or, worst case, a roadway which has already collapsed directly ahead (again, I give you social media, exemplified by Facebook(r) but not limited to them alone).

Keep stirring! The... uh... "Stuff", keeps flowing and it must be dealt with. The alternative is to find ourselves hip deep in "stuff" without even a paddle, let alone a canoe.

[SpecialEd]

I guess we all have to agree to disagree. I believe it is a non-issue and the only thing silly is this thread going on and on. Cheers!

[Bings]

So they get your email address (the only identifying data) as well as the other information, then each dev has to go through his/her emails, reformat the data and send it on to the proper address/repository/database. All of which takes them away from developing. Don't think it's going to happen.

Looking through arguably meaningless data take them away from developing regardless of format.

If people want to knowingly install a program and do something then whatever but in the context of the world today, I think any sort of data sharing should be warned against and not normalised. However innocuous.

[TWPonKubuntu]

Personally, I'm not sending them my data.

My statement was "If you really want to help the developers, ...". Some people feel obligated to offer assistance. I propose an option which reduces the loss of privacy. Not eliminate it, but at least the individual retains control of their data.

It is totally up to each individual, unlike the default to use an opt-out switch in the OS.

[SpecialEd]

>>>>>

If you really want to help the developers, send them an email with system information. You then control exactly what info is added to their database (including your email...). You owe it to them to help prevent their own movement toward the "dark side".

Avoid allowing these pieces of software from sending data which they (not you) collect from your system. "Trust, but verify" - Ronald Reagen

So they get your email address (the only identifying data) as well as the other information, then each dev has to go through his/her emails, reformat the data and send it on to the proper address/repository/database. All of which takes them away from developing. Don't think it's going to happen.