Thunderbird has stopped receving emails -- what is best replacement?

[joneall]

I guess I'm cheating here, trying to get two questions into one post. The more important one is why has Tbird stopped receiving emails since I upgraded to 128.13.0esr. (Why ESR? I installed Firefox ESR a week or 10 days ago, as ordinary FF would not play Netflis movies.) I can get to them on my host's webmail client and they show up on my smartphone (android, of course). Is there a fix for this?

I can see the emails in evolution so it does not seem to be a linux problem or a provider problem.

What email clients are the best for Neon? I've tried evolution, but can't figure out to use it with multiple accounts (4). I can't get kmail to ask me for a password to log in.

I would probably prefer to remain with Tbird, other things being equal, as I have it all set up for multiple accounts and two languages.

[claydoh]

To be honest, thunderbird is the best choice other than using web interfaces.

I'd suggest trying to add a different instance of the account that is causing the issue -- also check with your provider in case they have any specific port selections or anything like that. Since it works on whichever Android mail client you are using, it seems like a configuration issue, though how it changed, I can't say. You can use your phone's settings as a template to match things up as well.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...ceive-messages

I do not recommend Kmail for most people. It is at best fiddly to set up (Gmail makes it a lot worse), I use it because I seem to like pain and being annoyed, and for some odd reason Thunderbird just annoys me more, maybe it's appearance? I dunno. It makes no sense. Having said that, once I set it up with 4 of my accounts so far, it works as expected. But the setup was very frustrating.

[joneall]

Claydoh, thanks for your comments on other mailers. I believe it is worth the trouble to investigate Tbird more. Which I have done, and the results are ... bizarre.

I installed Evolution to see what it looked like. I have multiple email accounts in Tbird, but Evo sends them all to a single Inbox. Not nice. But what is astounding is that Evo sees all the emails Tbird does not. Well, almost all. So it doesn't seem linked to my network or my mail server or any possibility of firewalls (don't have one anyway) or such things.

It gets more bizarre yet. In Tbird, I have several email accounts, 3 in jon-something and one in siv, all with the same domain, of course. Siv can send email to jon1 and it goes into a black hole. No error msg and no arrival chez jon1. She can however cc a msg to jon1 and he receives it!!! And jon1 can send siv an email.

I have one especially bizarre case: siv sends an email to jon1 and cc's it to herself, jon1 and jon2. Nobody receives it. But it's there in her sent mail. Even the webmail does not receive that one, nor does Evolution, but there is no server msg complaining about an error. I feel like I am losing my marbles as well as my email.

What is the element I am missing?

[claydoh]

It seems to happen to people here and there, but there is no notable cause.

I have one especially bizarre case: siv sends an email to jon1 and cc's it to herself, jon1 and jon2. Nobody receives it. But it's there in her sent mail. Even the webmail does not receive that one, nor does Evolution, but there is no server msg complaining about an error. I feel like I am losing my marbles as well as my email.

That one sounds like a problem with the mail provider? I dunno.

You should be able to configure Evolution and other mail clients to have separate inboxes, I'd think.\

Also, there is Geary, which I forgot. Never used it.

[joneall]

Believe it or not, this is getting worse. This morning, my mailer seems to be a black hole, absorbing everything. I can send an email to anybody and it shows up neither on tbird, nor on my smartphone nor on the webmail.

Btw, what should the ports be for the servers. I'm using 993 for input. Was using 465 for output, due to a suggestion on the net i changed that to 587. No help.

[claydoh]

what should the ports be for the servers.

That can depend on your provider. but 993/465 is common.

If another mail client is working for you and your account, then perhaps whatever database or folder structure Tbird uses is broken/corrupted?

[Qqmike]

It's worth a look to see if the email provider has a page on port settings. Mine does, very nicely and clearly done. And it has sometimes changed, if only slightly.

[joneall]

I installed seamonkey ("Son of thunderbird") and it can send emails to anybody.

About half the time I try to send an email with Tbird, I get this message.

Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server (SMTP) was lost in the middle of the transaction. Try again.

When I try again, it seems to succeed, but the email goes into a black hole.

[Buddlespit]

I'm currently using ProtonMail and ProtonMail-Bridge to link my provider and google email addresses in Neon. You're expected to have an idea of what you're doing when you set up the bridge. I'm on a subscription with them, so I have ProtonVPN, ProtonMail, ProtonPass and ProtonDrive. I'm still researching on how to use protonDrive.