Covid HEAVY USE Neon and Kubuntu

[GreyGeek]

Before the change in how C19 cases were counted this was the situation:

Notice that only the yellow individual was counted as a C19 case. And, an example:


Then came the change:

and an example:


Now, with the new definition, EVERYONE is a C19 case, tested or not. And, a death certificate:


Hundreds of examples exist of people dying from explicit causes (motorcycle accident, heart attack, brain cancer) but because they were classified as a "probable C19", or a postmortem showed serum C19 antigens, the death was listed as due to C19.

The CARES Act provides that for every covid case a hospital treated the Feds would pay an additional 10% of the hospitals fees for such treatment. For every patient that was put on a ventilator the Feds would pay an additional 39% of the hospitals regular fees. So, yes, there was an incentive for hospitals to elevate patients to covid status.

So, today, we are in a contradictory state of having ballooning numbers of C19 "cases", with mostly asymptomatic, and a declining number of deaths attributed to C19, even with the new definition.

As I mentioned before, when I was a JR in HS in 1958 a Flu pandemic struck. It killed 116,000 Americans, which would be equivalent to 232,000 today. Even so, we went about our normal lives. In this pandemic, IF it is one, why did we lay off 14 million workers and nearly destroy our economy? Who is driving the hysteria? Why are some people shaming others who choose not to wear masks when the scientific evidence establishes unequivocally that masks do not work? Masks are becoming a great example of Lysenkoism. I even see people hyperventilating over the idea that because so many people are out of work no one is manufacturing goods and delivering services and supply chains are becoming empty.

[GreyGeek]

CDC creates a stink

The CDC opened a can of worms last week by adding a paragraph to its report of covid deaths in week ending ...
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ekly/index.htm

The added paragraph stated that 6% of C19 deaths were due only to C19. The remaining 94% had C19 plus an average of 2.6 additional commodities listed on the death certificate.

The problem is that the paragraph did not say explicitly that C19 was the primary cause of death in the 94%. Neither does it say that patients with comorbidities would have survived if they hadn't contracted C19. Initially, the CDC states "with" C19 but now use the term "involving" C19.

The CDC is holding back data. This is obvious from the fact that the way the data is presented in the graphs and tables on that CDC website makes it impossible to extract C19 ONLY data. Ditto for Influenza and Pneumonia. This is also obvious from the title of the headers above the columns in Table 1. And, in a footnote to the table:

2 Counts of deaths involving pneumonia include pneumonia deaths that also involve COVID-19 and exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.
3 Counts of deaths involving influenza include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.
4 Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, pneumonia, or influenza, coded to ICD–10 codes U07.1 or J09–18.9.

The CDC can't cite ACTUAL Influenza deaths this year because they stopped "tracking" Influenza deaths on May 4th. They weren't really tracking the deaths anyway, because since 2010 they no longer collect deaths due to actual counts of Influenza. They use computer models.

Most states have a 5 or 10 day limit as to how long a death certificate can be withheld so that family members can bury their deceased without an undue delay, unless an autopsy or other medical tests need to be administered. Many states put a 72 hour limit on how long testing is allowed to delay the certificate. But those limits to delay have no effect on how long the CDC can delay in posting certificate counts to their website.

Shortly after May 30th I captured this image:

And, after July 11th this image:

And, on Sept 1st this image:

It is obvious that something has changed that allowed a two week flat spot to balloon out and even inflate previous weeks counts. That cause will be in my next post.

Finally, there is a dropdown combo box on the graph that allows one to choose between "C19 deaths" and "Total Deaths". Here is the "Total Deaths" graph:

It shows that when adding Pneumonia and Influenza to the data the graph expands upward by a factor of about 5X. The conclusion is obvious. In my next post I offer a possible explanation.

Also, as you can see, the peak of the C19 pandemic was on April 18th, and showed a total of 16,000 C19 deaths during that preceding week. Notice the age range. By 15 to 1 the majority the deceased "with" C19 was 55 and older, with 1/3rd being 85+. In other words, the CDC is reporting what several other governments have reported when they stated that the majority of deaths due to C19 were among the elderly, with the average age being 77.

In May the way C19 cases were counted was changed as well. Initially, a PCR test postmortem was required if C19 was suspected as a factor in the death. In one county, implementing that change elevated the C19 case count from 81 to over 4,600. In my next post I'll show those changes.

[chimak111]

Some random comments.

I wear a mask because that's the "law" where I live but I'm acutely aware of its limitations.

This is the first pandemic to be so highly politicised. "The Science" and views of "experts" reflect that.

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

Politicians all over the world are blessed with foresight about how exactly they would have tackled the problem if only they were in power.

There's opportunity for the "health industry" to profit.

The CDC has changed its guidance significantly over the last few months.

One of CDC's most recent updates is dramatically at odds with common understanding re. the percentage of "pure" Covid deaths. Other studies on the value of non-pharmaceutical interventions are revelatory as well. Let's if and how these findings are presented to the public.

[GreyGeek]

It is important for the whole society to wear masks, then if someone is sick without knowing it, then others will not get infected.

You are assuming, of course, that masks work to filter C19. That assumption has been proven by several random controlled trials to be wrong. So, if masks can't filter a 0.1 micron particle, and they can't, what's the point in wearing them?

[DannyPhilips]

It is important for the whole society to wear masks, then if someone is sick without knowing it, then others will not get infected.

[Qqmike]

@ jglen, Yes, demographic, blended 'subcultures,' I see that where I live. In my neighborhood, we have a dozen nationalities and lifestyles and I know most of them, Chinese, Japanese, Hispanic, E. European, Navajo (two families), Zuni Indian, Philippine, and lifestyle choices, lots of single women homeowners, gay couples, ... dozens of lifestyles and nationalities. And around town and in this state (NM). Best neighbors you could ever hope to have. There are very clear patterns of exemplary beliefs and behavioral patterns ... how's that for a diplomatic way of putting it! ;-) Want to talk about what it * really * means to be a good, true American? ... "They" can tell you.

[jglen490]

This 73 year old sees the world in much the same way. The city where I live has a fairly large population of Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and other East Asian/Pacific peoples. Yes, that is a way of life and an approach to life that shows up as people wearing masks for the purpose of protecting others. It's a mindset the rest of us could definitely afford to adopt.

[Qqmike]

I'm familiar with S Koreans, gotten to know many and communicate daily in a a few YT communities. They live in a totally different (read: better in many ways) society. Specifically re the COVID, they take the governmental guidance to heart, take it very seriously, masking, distancing, "step-wise" implementation of action-policies, etc., and they all encourage and support each other. It's a team effort. USA leadership worldwide has taken a back seat in this and other ways; and frankly it is somewhat embarrassing. Never thought I'd think that, let alone say it out loud, at age 71.

[jglen490]

@TWPonKubuntu, the experts have made clear why they are worried and why we should be, too:

seems to be very contagious;
the morbidity factor, calculate it as you wish;
the many unknowns that they are trying to convert to knowns;
and the weird sh* going on: manifesting in multiple symptoms against multiple bodily systems, damage to various organs, after-effects even weeks/months down the road.

The way this was handled is criminal (and that, too, in being looked into by legal experts). Like I said, good damn thing it is a not a bio-chem-terror attack, with no one in charge or responsible.

Agree. Policy (perhaps), and actions (definitely), have an impact on the spread, infection, and death rates. For instance, the U.S. has about 5% of the world's population, and about 25% of the world's infection load. Just ask the 180,000 people in the U.S. who died (their loved ones actually) whether "morbidity" rates mean crap. The U.S. has one of the most laissez-faire national approaches to the COVID-19 disease in the world, and certainly among the richest nations. To be fair, the efforts to minimize flu have vaccines, whereas COVID-19 does not - yet.

Maybe you've noticed, maybe not, but there are a lot societies in the world who, when individuals become sick those individuals will wear a mask. Not to protect themselves, but to protect others. Time to put aside pride and self-centered interest. Wear the mask, it's so simple.

[jglen490]

Anyone actually gonna answer my question of how they got zoom to auto update.

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I've never seen it auto update. Maybe once or twice over the past year (give or take), I've needed to manually update/upgrade.

[claydoh]

Anyone actually gonna answer my question of how they got zoom to auto update.

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Update from within the zoom app itself (manually)
Else install it via snap or flatpak

[claydoh]

Anyone actually gonna answer my question of how they got zoom to auto update.

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Probably not....

[mr_raider]

Anyone actually gonna answer my question of how they got zoom to auto update.

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[Qqmike]

@TWPonKubuntu, the experts have made clear why they are worried and why we should be, too:

seems to be very contagious;
the morbidity factor, calculate it as you wish;
the many unknowns that they are trying to convert to knowns;
and the weird sh* going on: manifesting in multiple symptoms against multiple bodily systems, damage to various organs, after-effects even weeks/months down the road.

The way this was handled is criminal (and that, too, in being looked into by legal experts). Like I said, good damn thing it is a not a bio-chem-terror attack, with no one in charge or responsible.

[TWPonKubuntu]

There is an underlying assumption which has not been addressed in this thread. That is the overall morbidity associated with COVID-19. It appears to be less lethal than some of the "flu" virus strains which we've experienced in the past and which are still around.

Media, politicians and some in the medical profession seem willing to portray COVID-19 as way more lethal than statistical analysis will support.

I'm not trying to say there is no danger, but I do feel that the danger is being presented out of proportion. I say that even thought I am in the age demographic with the higher morbidity rate.

I find myself more worried about the reaction of other people to my wearing/not wearing a mask, than I worry about the actual virus...

We live in the era of political correctness.