Nicely Nitpick Noble 24.04 LTS

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

Perhaps the dramas are causing trouble, or maybe the devs took an Easter break. The 24.04 daily build is timestamped 2024-03-28 08:00, and I to install it I had to work around the calamares crashes. Then, discover found about 400 updates, and failed to process them; at least, it didn't show any progress as it normally does. So, I used apt full-upgrade which took about half an hour including about 10 minutes installing the Thunderbird snap. Belatedly I realized this update removed lots of plasma, including dolphin, and on a system restart plasma wouldn't start at all.

I'll wait for a new iso before trying again.

The failed updates are due to the Canonical devs removing and rebuilding every Ubuntu package published since Feb 26th, after the whole "backdoored xz-utils & liblzma" security thing.
It's also why the beta release has been delayed a week until April 11th, as stated here:- https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble...y-update/43827

[jlittle]

Perhaps the dramas are causing trouble, or maybe the devs took an Easter break. The 24.04 daily build is timestamped 2024-03-28 08:00, and I to install it I had to work around the calamares crashes. Then, discover found about 400 updates, and failed to process them; at least, it didn't show any progress as it normally does. So, I used apt full-upgrade which took about half an hour including about 10 minutes installing the Thunderbird snap. Belatedly I realized this update removed lots of plasma, including dolphin, and on a system restart plasma wouldn't start at all.

I'll wait for a new iso before trying again.

[Schwarzer Kater]

As of today the Thunderbird Snap is preinstalled by default in Kubuntu 24.04 (development branch).

There are three Snaps preinstalled in Kubunt 24.04 (development branch) now:

• Firefox Snap (one can install e.g. the Firefox from Mozilla.org to /opt additionally to or after removing the Snap)
• Thunderbird Snap (one can install e.g. the Thunderbird from Mozilla.org to /opt additionally to or after removing the Snap)
• Firmware Updater Snap (if need be one can use e.g. the preinstalled command line tool fwupdmgr after removing this Snap)

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

The latest news is that due to the whole xz/liblzma thing and the move to t64, the beta release of Noble has been pushed back a week to April 11th.
Source - https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble...y-update/43827

[acheron]

https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/whats...tories/43729/1

https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/xz-li...e-post-2/43801

[GrouchPotato]

Did you try

and to apt full-upgrade from the current status of the repositories afterwards and reboot before installing your programs?

Yes I did try that and was getting messages that it was installing x as per my request even though y dependencies would break. Or something to that effect. That is why I eventually, re-imaged it.

PS: it is called Discover by the way and I would not advise to use it in a development version but only to use CLI for package management.

Thanks for the tip. update-manager/discovery were removed during updates. So, I was only using apt.

I would also not advise to install Calamares on the running development release - you are asking for trouble…

Agreed. oshunluvr asked me about that and well I ended up re-imaging unit anyhow.

Regards

[NoWorries]

I have just been updated by Discover with the latest list of several hundred packages. My Info Centre now looks like this.



Hope you all have success with all the new updates -note the new kernel! All the best to you all and the Developers for the Easter Season.

[NoWorries]

On my Broken Noble system, I did an install from my old Noble iso download which used Ubiquity. Once again I had a large number of files to download. I ignored these and proceeded to install my list of applications. Partway through doing this I found my system was OK, BUT I COULD NOT LOGOUT! So I went and installed kubuntu desktop and various other desktops and related applications for sddm and breeze. I was then able to recover my menu options and I found to my surprise that I now had KDE Plasma Version 5.27.11, KDE Frameworks 5.115 and QT Plasma 5.15.12. Discover now has 731 applications listed totalling 858.9 MiB.

My Noble is now fully operational, and I now have to have to still wait, but I am glad that I got my system back in a rather sneaky way!

[oshunluvr]

I can't. Except I am not highly familiar with the nuts and bolts of KDE.

Calamares is an installer not part of a running system. Not trying to offend you, but you probably shouldn't just install things you have no reason to.

[NoWorries]

From what I see, the developers area working hard to prepare an update to KDE Plasma Version 5.27.11. My Discover currently shows 1,559 updates and a total size 881.4 MiB. So I think we need to be patient and wait which is hard for me to do!

On my other Noble system I wasn't patient and did the command line update etc and it broke that system. That now makes me more careful and wait.

[Schwarzer Kater]

Yes, I did just run some updates, but now I have only several hundred held back packages and Discovery is broken/uninstalled?

Did you try

No Problem I blew away the install for the recently saved image and started again.

and to apt full-upgrade from the current status of the repositories afterwards and reboot before installing your programs?

PS: it is called Discover by the way and I would not advise to use it in a development version but only to use CLI for package management.
I would also not advise to install Calamares on the running development release - you are asking for trouble…

[GrouchPotato]

Can you explain why you're trying to install calamares on a running system?

I can't. Except I am not highly familiar with the nuts and bolts of KDE.

[GrouchPotato]

GrouchPotato: I have just had an update of more than 1100 (!) packages on another machine - perhaps try again later and/or accept that there might be problems as long as it is a development release and not even a Beta…

Hi Schwarzer Kater,

Yes, I did just run some updates, but now I have only several hundred held back packages and Discovery is broken/uninstalled? 518 held back. 405

[Schwarzer Kater]

I forgot to mention: there even is a nice Kubuntu page in the KDE Welcome Centre now:

[Schwarzer Kater]

GrouchPotato: I have just had an update of more than 1100 (!) packages on another machine - perhaps try again later and/or accept that there might be problems as long as it is a development release and not even a Beta…