New Kubuntu Council Members - including a familiar KFN name

[Teunis]

Congratulations to claydoh and the counsel, let's hope Kubuntu (and it's counsel) gain some well deserved respect.

Personally I have no problem Shuttleworth making money with Canonical but he has to respect the developers and users just as much as we have to respect the significant money he has poured in to Linux.
Linux has never been a one DE fits all experience, there is enough place for KDE and Unity to coexist and it's healthy competition that keeps the actors sharp.

[logan01]

Bwahaha!
Don't picker up too much there

Heck I don't even have a Kubuntu shirt (not available in my size).

Sent from my LG G4

Oh yeah, seen it all before, get one of those high falutin' positions and forget the little guy. Congrats my man.

I caught my first glimpse of Kubuntu through my dirty Windows.

[claydoh]

Congratulations claydoh! Though I'm a newbie here, from what I have seen, this highly coveted position you aspired to and achieved will serve us well. BTW, um, can you get me a Kubuntu (or Linux) T-shirt either in OD green w/ desert tan graphics or the reverse? I think I'd actually prefer the reverse. Thanks.

Bwahaha!
Don't picker up too much there

Heck I don't even have a Kubuntu shirt (not available in my size).

Sent from my LG G4

[logan01]

Congratulations claydoh! Though I'm a newbie here, from what I have seen, this highly coveted position you aspired to and achieved will serve us well. BTW, um, can you get me a Kubuntu (or Linux) T-shirt either in OD green w/ desert tan graphics or the reverse? I think I'd actually prefer the reverse. Thanks.

[kubicle]

Anyway remember Al Pacino's advice, keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. In Godfather III he also advises: never tell your enemy what your thinking. In other words the less you alert Mark Shuttleworth to your true opinion of him the better. Until we are in a more powerful relative position more "protest" is counter productive.

Heh, let's not get carried away here, open source development is not (or rather should not be) a sequel to Godfather

What we really need is transparency. This whole thing started because there was a lack of it in the dealings of UCC/Shuttleworth/Canonical, we don't really want to replicate that in the kubuntu community.

Things need to be as they appear to be (and vice versa), otherwise we are just asking for more problems. People tend to respect openness, even if they disagree. Cloak and dagger approach won't really work.

[Rich Oliver]

Kubuntu is a very valuable bridge out of Ubuntu. I can suggest people move to Kubuntu without too much disruption. Sadly most people's first experience is Ubuntu, but that's the way it is. Anyway remember Al Pacino's advice, keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. In Godfather III he also advises: never tell your enemy what your thinking. In other words the less you alert Mark Shuttleworth to your true opinion of him the better. Until we are in a more powerful relative position more "protest" is counter productive. Personally I try to to avoid any action that enriches Canonical.

[MoonRise]

Dang it, now everyone knows. I may have to actually do something

Well, we know it will be quality work!!

Congrats!!

[bsniadajewski]

Congrats, Claydoh!

[kubicle]

Well, caving may be descriptive looking from the outside, but it may or may not be accurate.

Point taken.

But it is fairly important how things look from the outside, especially if you are a "community council".
Hidden actions and agendas (even if ingenious) don't really cut it.

in a Torvalds kind of way, imo

Very well put.

[claydoh]

Well, the council had a chance to be meaningful and show some leadership...and it caved in.

Anyway, none of it is your fault, and I truly wish you the best of luck, and perhaps you (all) can prove me wrong on the 'meaningless' remark.

btw, kitterman was my hero on the ubuntu-devel, sometimes it felt like he was the only sane person in there.

Well, caving may be descriptive looking from the outside, but it may or may not be accurate.

scottk is cool. He is sane, in a Torvalds kind of way, imo

[Qqmike]

kubicle: btw, kitterman was my hero on the ubuntu-devel, sometimes it felt like he was the only sane person in there.

As I recall, Scott Kitterman played a key role in keeping Kubuntu 8.04 alive for quite some time for some of us (me, included).

[NoWorries]

I was so glad to see that you were willing to go onto the Council. I am sure you will be able to make a positive contribution. I also hope that your contributions to this forum still come with this extra responsibility.

NoWorries

[kubicle]

The time for things being meaningless isn't quite here, yet.

Well, the council had a chance to be meaningful and show some leadership...and it caved in.

Anyway, none of it is your fault, and I truly wish you the best of luck, and perhaps you (all) can prove me wrong on the 'meaningless' remark.

btw, kitterman was my hero on the ubuntu-devel, sometimes it felt like he was the only sane person in there.

[vinnywright]

Cool .........I feel like I know someone on the inside now

VINNY

[Qqmike]

Be like SuperWoman and save Kubuntu!