Will you install Windows 10?

[Teunis]

Someone checked out on this 'telemetry' and wrote an article about it.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02..._10_telemetry/

I'm in no position to assert this is the full truth but it's the best I've come across.
Source:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...mt577208.aspx.

I don't run Win10 but as I do read some of this stuff has been backported to Win7 etc. I've installed:
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

[Cecil]

Someone checked out on this 'telemetry' and wrote an article about it.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02..._10_telemetry/

I'm in no position to assert this is the full truth but it's the best I've come across.
Source:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...mt577208.aspx.

I don't run Win10 but as I do read some of this stuff has been backported to Win7 etc. I've installed:
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

Yeah, I've read all of that as well. Like I said, I don't mind that Microsoft needs data to fix bugs in Windows, it's just that they're being far too aggressive in trying to get Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade to Windows 10 (to the point that it's far too easy to unintentionally install Windows 10), and the fact that telemetry is set to "Full" by default, a setting that most users won't know about, much less how to adjust, that it makes me suspicious of their motives despite what they claim.

[Qqmike]

Enhanced marketing aggression ...

IT Admins Angered By New Windows 10 Upgrade Push
http://www.windows10update.com/2016/...-upgrade-push/
and the link there to more aggression ...
Has Microsoft Snuck A Windows 10 Ad In An Internet Explorer Patch?
http://www.windows10update.com/2016/...xplorer-patch/

If this weren't actually happening, it would be hard to believe.

[Teunis]

Tonight there was a Slashdot post about automatic updates happening without owners asking.
I log in to Win7 maybe once every several weeks, I'm curious what'll happen next time.

[Cecil]

Enhanced marketing aggression ...

IT Admins Angered By New Windows 10 Upgrade Push
http://www.windows10update.com/2016/...-upgrade-push/
and the link there to more aggression ...
Has Microsoft Snuck A Windows 10 Ad In An Internet Explorer Patch?
http://www.windows10update.com/2016/...xplorer-patch/

If this weren't actually happening, it would be hard to believe.

Yeah, I'm enjoying my decision to abandon Windows more and more. The ad is expected, but now pushing admins to compromise their job by telling end-users to bug them about it? If a company is going to upgrade to Windows 10, they likely have a timeframe, and don't need Microsoft to harass them. If they're not upgrading, same deal, they don't need Microsoft harassing them

[woodsmoke]

I have to deal with this piece of drek (Win 10 and continuous updates) at the college. I'm still running Windblows Vista on my Sony Vaio where I have the crossword and test generator programmes ( I now run them in WINE) and never use it.

In my paranoia I took it and My Toshiba lappy with ...don't remember which Kubu on it, when I went to Austin to give presentations on my teaching methods, ( I was told that there would NOT be lappys in the presentations rooms!! :0 I mean what's up with THAT! a national organizagion thousands of attendees hundreds of presenters and ....no lappys! ) But, both the Vista and the Kubu machine interacted with the projection software fine and e-mail. Same in Key Largo, I now only take the Toshiba Lappy.

ANNNd I've posted this elsewhere, the Kubuntu machines worked with the college's software when I was teaching online for it, also for U of P when I was doing online only.

wooddon'tneeddatdreksmoke

[Qqmike]

Windows Dips Below 90% Share For The First Time In Decade

http://www.windows10update.com/2016/...t-time-decade/

So what do "we" (i.e., you savvy market observers) make of this?

[GreyGeek]

What? I missed it! Did Hell freeze over?

BTW, The Windows market share has been below 90% for quite awhile and dropping, Microsoft centric (and dependent) websites and pundits not withstanding. Microsoft's retail sales channel is where the count of installs comes from, and MS owns that data? Do you trust it? When they first released WinPhone after sinking Nioka, to inflate the numbers in an attempt to get out of the one digit % basement they were even counting phones still on the production line, in addition to those pilling up on the warehouse shelves unsold because no one liked them.

As far as computers with WinX on them consider that just like their phone sales MS controls the info that comes out of their retail sales channel. Do you trust them? Another thing to consider is that when someone switches to Linux they usually do that at the expense of a Windows installation. So, Windows sales count remains but the number of machines running Windows decreases while the number of Linux machines increases. So sales channels do not reflect reality, especially when MS controls the info. Also, web visitation counts are so biased, especially those websites which make money promoting Linux. Using this website I can prove that Windows share is 42% and Linux's is 47%.

Also, what really stinks is how MS is using Canonical to bail itself out of another stink bomb of an OS and, in the process, give an opportunity to blame Ubuntu for Win10's problems. Putting Ubuntu's BASH shell on Win10, in which any Linux app (CLI, GTK+, KDE4/5) can be run is an attempt to short circuit the flight of WinX users away from Windows to Linux and Mac. I suspect that it will fail because for the last 10 years Microsoft has developed a habit of turning Lemonade into Lemons.

[MoonRise]

because for the last 10 years Microsoft has developed a habit of turning Lemonade into Lemons.

Without the sugar!!

[life0riley]

Without the sugar!!

And too much pulp!

[TWPonKubuntu]

"Windows below 90%" Great big crocodile tear flow down my face...
Couldn't happen to a nicer company...

For those outside the culture, that is satire, not serious.
MS took my money in the past and gave me problems in return.
Linux wins in my book.

[Qqmike]

Microsoft Admits Latest Windows 10 Cumulative Update Slows Down Computers

Microsoft has confirmed that one of the latest Windows 10 cumulative updates, KB3156421 specifically, is making some PCs really slow, and apparently this is a known issue. Something that Redmond has known for a few weeks now, and has been trying to track down and fix.

http://www.windows10update.com/2016/...ows-computers/

[charles052]

I've tried putting Windows 7 back on my laptop thinking it was as good as anything else since I do most of my work on my Desktop (which runs Kubuntu 12.04). Boy was I wrong. Windows 7 was buggy as all get out and I couldn't get hardly anything done. Not to mention it was just plain slow.

My wife has a Windows 8 computer and it's been prompting her to upgrade to 10 incessantly (harassment anyone?). I finally got the update causing it uninstalled and turned off automatic updates since it keeps getting reinstalled. No, I finally got 8 to do mostly what I wanted it to do and I'm not going to do anymore unnecessary work so no 10 if I can help it.

[whatthefunk]

More Microsoft fun:
http://www.computerworld.com/article...de-tactic.html

As part of a final push to boost the number of PCs running Windows 10 before the July 29 expiration of its free upgrade offer, Microsoft has altered the behavior of a notification dialog so that clicking the "X" in the upper-right corner authorizes the pre-scheduled upgrade.

What a crooked company...

[charles052]

More Microsoft fun:
http://www.computerworld.com/article...de-tactic.html


What a crooked company...

You know it's bad when people don't even want it for free.