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    #31
    While true, it's not a reason not to upgrade. It's a reason to dislike Microsoft even more. Is Microsoft so desperate? or is it simply following industry trends to competitively force users to be consumers, to be targeted advertising targets?

    That forced upgrade you're talking about is very confusing, encountered it here, closed the box using the upper right corner X, the box recurs quite often. I will be upgrading a laptop here--for the heck of it--from 8.1 to 10, but you have to use the Custom Install to avoid at least 30 ways Windows 10 will try to spy on you or otherwise invade/borrow some of your privacy and personal data.
    http://www.howtogeek.com/224616/30-w...Speed=noscript
    (Of course, you can turn it all off manually after installing 10. However, instead of targeted, customized ads, you'll get generic ads not tailored to you--even on the Start menu.)

    How would you like to be in that business, earning your living that way, relying on such work to feed your family? What a pitiful way to earn a living, writing such code or being in charge of spear-heading such marketing ploys.
    An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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      #32
      Right. I didn't give a reason not to upgrade. My dislike of Microsoft has influenced my decision.

      The only way to avoid accidentally upgrading to Windows 10 is to turn off automatic upgrades and removing Microsoft update KB3035583. This recommended update, KB3035583 installs the "Get Windows 10" app button in the system tray.
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        #33
        Here is a reason.

        Beware, latest Windows 10 Update may remove programs automatically
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          #34
          Then, all reports indicate that the forcefully uninstalled software would install and run fine on the system without issues. This makes it more likely that a bug caused the issue and that it was not a deliberate action programmed into the update.

          The outlook is even worse. Who in their right mind would install an operating system that might remove installed software -- maybe even paid for software or critical software -- without user interaction or consent, especially if it turns out later that the software works just fine on the system?
          Yeah, right, that's a reason.
          There is supposed to be a way to roll back to previous state if you act within 30 days of the new upgrade that you don't like. But if they un-install a program, ...
          M$ just can't seem to get things right, notwithstanding all their years at this and all their wealth.
          An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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            #35
            Here are more reasons.

            Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Windows 10

            I love this picture!
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              #36
              That author needs to be more straightforward, less subtle, less timid, more direct in how he expresses his views.
              Ha! He has certainly thought it through.
              An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                #37
                Can it get worse?

                Microsoft Really Wants You To Get Windows 10 Tonight

                http://www.windows10update.com/2015/...ws-10-tonight/
                An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                  #38
                  I upgraded because MS revoked my Win7pro key that I paid $33 for. I had a spare Win8.1pro key that I had paid $35 for. I installed that a spare SSHD

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                    #39
                    I have XP on my oldest laptop. Windows 7 on my 3 year old laptop. XP was my favorite Windows, 7 a not too distant second. My several month old laptop came with 8.1. Did the 10 upgrade after a month or so. Had prior experience with 8 on other folks PCs and hated it. So I went the 10 route and wasn't impressed in the least. Especially the lack of control over updates and the overall feeling of Microsoft now owning me; much the same way as I feel about Apple. 10 is what finally stimulated me to dual boot w/ Kubuntu 14.04. Could not have done it without some super great folks here. You should checkout my original thread. You'll laugh / you'll cry. I really like Kubuntu 14.04 though it continues to be a struggle trying to figure out how to properly use it and take full advantage of it. But I'm ever so slowly learning and don't regret it one bit. I go to Windows 10 about 30 minutes or so every 3-4 weeks just to keep the dust knocked off and for any housekeeping which may be needed.
                    Kubuntu 14.04 / KDE 4.13.3 / GRUB Version: 0.97-29ubuntu66
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                    -f033wm Laptop / CPU: Intel / GPU: Intel Corporation Atom Processor / RAM: 8GB / Hard Drive: 1 each / Seagate / Optical Drive: HP DVDRW GUB0N / Windows 10

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                      #40
                      I go to Windows 10 about 30 minutes or so every 3-4 weeks just to keep the dust knocked off and for any housekeeping which may be needed.
                      That's a familiar statement around here! How many of us have done the same thing. I did it with XP, just not quite sure I should wipe that drive and say goodbye to XP. And that housekeeping does take some time and patience at times, along with many re-boots as it adjusts to its updates. And getting CCleaner updates and such. But the day came when I could see it was so-long to XP, and that's that, a done, gone deal. Same as you now, an ASUS i5 laptop that the spouse uses, it's several months old, came with 8.1, going to up it to 10 soon, not real sure why or for how long.
                      An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                        #41
                        It's the huge amount of spyware that keeps me from committing to a 7-10 change. (See I didn't write Upgrade?)

                        There are recipes to afterwards clean up that Win10:

                        https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking

                        http://techne.alaya.net/?p=12499

                        That's a lot of work just to regain control over my pc...

                        More worrisome are the reports a lot of this spyware has now been backported to Win7 and 8.1

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                          #42
                          OK life0riley. That was a great picture. I needed that.

                          Truthfully I use WIN10 @ work. Since I'm the IT manager I took it upon myself to test our other software we use to see how it performs. All in all I find it a vast improvement over 8/8.1. There are still a lot of idiosyncrasies that hinder proper operation, especially their new web browser. I personally have had issues others have had in past versions that I never did, now I do. Go figure. Yes, I have had some personal settings reverted by MS after an update and I have had some software mysteriously not working any more either.

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                            #43
                            I keep a Win 7 partition and a Win 7 VM moderately updated, because surprisingly often I need to work with Excel spreadsheets that don't seem to display right in LibreOffice, or (shockingly) websites that only work in IE.

                            No plans to go to Win 10. So far I haven't seen this invasive upgrade system tray thing ...
                            I'd rather be locked out than locked in.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by SecretCode View Post
                              I keep a Win 7 partition and a Win 7 VM moderately updated, because surprisingly often I need to work with Excel spreadsheets that don't seem to display right in LibreOffice, or (shockingly) websites that only work in IE.

                              No plans to go to Win 10. So far I haven't seen this invasive upgrade system tray thing ...
                              Unfortunately I'm starting to see more websites that only work with IE. I thought that was changing with the popularity of Firefox and Chrome.

                              The upgrade to Windows 10 is only offered with that system tray button if your hardware meets the requirements for a Windows 10 installation. I have a Windows 7 32 bit VirtualBox guest that was not offered the upgrade. My other Windows 7 64 bit computer was offered the Windows 10 upgrade. That system tray button came with Microsoft update KB3035583.
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                                #45
                                Websites that only work with IE? Never come across that before. Any examples?

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