Be Wily and Enjoy the Progress of Kubuntu 15.10

[vinnywright]

installing

        [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]sudo apt install libappindicator1 libappindicator3-1[/COLOR]

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pulls in a few more ,,,,,,,,and dropbox icon shows in system tray once again .

VINNY

[bsniadajewski]

I just upgraded to 15.10 today. So far things are stable. The only issue thus far is a problem with drop-down menus in KCharSelect. BTW, 5.4 is in Wily.

Also, is there no longer a kscreensaver package?

[ronw]

Decided to overwrite my spare install of Vivid on a USB3 HDD with Wily Beta 1. Formatted and replaced /, kept the existing /home.

Installer ultimately worked. It took several minutes to load the Disk Setup step. I thought I was going to hit the timezone error Vinny and claydoh mentioned earlier in this thread, or some other error. I was (uncharacteristically) patient and waited, and it finally loaded and worked. Yay Kubuntu.

Two 'oh nice' moments:

The "apt" command now has tab completion.

Virtualbox from the Oracle repo wouldn't install because the installed version of some required package was too new. Looking for a workaround, the Google told me that the Ubuntu repo, which used to lag way way behind, has the current 5.0.2. Of course now I have to endure the pain of updating the Win7 vm that hasn't been touched in a few months.

[NoWorries]

For a normal Ubuntu iso, nothing is or can be stored on the USB stick; fake filesystems are built in RAM using squashfs.

I have 16GB of RAM on my system and I find that if I try repeating the install, many of my original settings are there when I proceed. For example, user name and processor name are presented. So I thought that this information was stored on the USB. I also got messages of /home having 0B, so if it is putting it in RAM, why does increasing the USB size remove the message?

I also had a failed install and so I repeated the process of making and installation disk and it then worked. I would be interested to know if there is some other explanation of what I have experienced

[jlittle]

... I have noticed that there are downloads proceeding and I assume that these are being loaded onto the USB...

For a normal Ubuntu iso, nothing is or can be stored on the USB stick; fake filesystems are built in RAM using squashfs.

[NoWorries]

Well I installed 15.04 on my Laptop(haswell processor and graphics) with back-ports no problem, but when I tried to do the same on my desktop (Haswell with AMD 7790), the desktop didn't work right. No expand, reduce or close buttons on the apps and they didn't show up in the task bar. Not sure if was the back-ports that broke it or if was broken from installation. Anyway I installed 15.10 beta on my desktop today and its most working from initial impressions. I'm getting no icons though when I launch dolphin and kate with kdesudo.

If I am doing an installation on another computer, I make a new installation USB because during the installation process I have noticed that there are downloads proceeding and I assume that these are being loaded onto the USB. I have had a report of 0B in the /home directory and for this reason I have now changed to using a 32GB. So if you want to install Vivid, I would be inclined to make a new installation USB and have another go. Best of Luck

[Rich Oliver]

I just checked KInfocentre and it shows 5.4.0. Planet KDE has also announced that its in.

[ronw]

Arch definitely got the jump on Plasma 5.4 this time round. I've been using it on my laptop for a while and it seems pretty stable. From initial impression its definitely functioning better than 5.3. 5.4's still not appeared on Tumbleweed or in Kubuntu 15.04 back-ports. Is 15.10 still on plasma 5.3?

I don't know if all the 5.4 bits are in 15.10, but at least some came in a day or two ago.

[Rich Oliver]

Well I installed 15.04 on my Laptop(haswell processor and graphics) with back-ports no problem, but when I tried to do the same on my desktop (Haswell with AMD 7790), the desktop didn't work right. No expand, reduce or close buttons on the apps and they didn't show up in the task bar. Not sure if was the back-ports that broke it or if was broken from installation. Anyway I installed 15.10 beta on my desktop today and its most working from initial impressions. I'm getting no icons though when I launch dolphin and kate with kdesudo.

Is there any disadvantage to running a beta when the proper image is released? Is it better to reinstall the final when it comes out?

I'm surprised there is no 15.10 forum. Is there not normally a section for the upcoming release by this stage? Arch definitely got the jump on Plasma 5.4 this time round. I've been using it on my laptop for a while and it seems pretty stable. From initial impression its definitely functioning better than 5.3. 5.4's still not appeared on Tumbleweed or in Kubuntu 15.04 back-ports. Is 15.10 still on plasma 5.3?

[NoWorries]

you are welcome , and glad my ramblings were of some help to someone

but do you have the ark compress and extract options in the rite click menu ,,,,,,I do not ,,,,nor dose @claydoh , I think.


this is strange ,,,,,,,,my KsysGuard has all 3 working as expected ,,,,,,,install was the standard (advertized on the Kubuntu site) beta1 .iso

VINNY

I do have a ZIP Device . . option only which is probably not what we want. This is shown below.



Unfortunately I am currently away from my system that has Wily on it, so I grabbed the image quickly before I left. Regarding KsysGuard. I will have to try the approach of deleting .cache and if that doesn't work I will have to search for its settings file.

I decided to replace Wily with Vivid on my Laptop as I need to do video editing over the next period and want to show the MS person who is normally does it but is away overseas, that Kubuntu can do as good a job as his $1000 Sony Video editing package.

[vinnywright]

Thanks Vinny, I had to install two of the four to get the complete list. The extra ones that I had to install were
kio-extras-data
libkonq5-templates
and now Dolphin works as it should. Looks like the developers missed a dependency or two.

you are welcome , and glad my ramblings were of some help to someone

but do you have the ark compress and extract options in the rite click menu ,,,,,,I do not ,,,,nor dose @claydoh , I think.

Before the re-install, KSysGuard only showed the Memory and Swap History usage with the other two histories for CPU and Network having no content. After the re-install, it was still the same. So I wasted my time doing the re-install as I was hoping these problems would go away.

this is strange ,,,,,,,,my KsysGuard has all 3 working as expected ,,,,,,,install was the standard (advertized on the Kubuntu site) beta1 .iso

VINNY

[vinnywright]

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Soft...nterfaceNames/

"Predictable" does not mean "understandable" or "clear" I guess.

Sent from my LG G4

I totaly agrey with that statement.

and I would add that if one was using several nicks in the first place (and so subject to the "race" for naming assignment) one would be savvy enough to do manual naming .

and this did break something for me ,,,,my conkyrc ,,,,,,of course that is a trivial fix ,,,,,but still it caused breakage .

I guess I will pass "net.ifnames=0" to the kernel boot line in grub and see what happens.

VINNY

[NoWorries]

maby this is why I have full dolphin rite click menu .

        [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ apt search libkonq5-templates [/COLOR]
Sorting... Done 
Full Text Search... Done 
[COLOR=#18b218]libkonq5-templates[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]/wily,now 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu5 all [installed,automatic] [/COLOR]
  data files for the Konqueror libraries 

vinny@vinny-Bonobo-Extreme:~$ apt search kio-extras 
Sorting... Done 
Full Text Search... Done 
[COLOR=#18b218]kio-extras[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]/wily,now 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed] [/COLOR]
  Extra functionality for kioslaves. 

[COLOR=#18b218]kio-extras-data[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]/wily,now 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1 all [installed] [/COLOR]
  Extra functionality for kioslaves data files. 

[COLOR=#18b218]kio-extras-dbg[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]/wily 4:15.08.0-0ubuntu1 amd64 [/COLOR]
  Extra functionality for kioslaves debug files.

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I have been adding all my favorite apps and things so I do not know if it was installed by default or not ,,,,,,,,it would seem not since a most of you are missing it .

VINNY

Thanks Vinny, I had to install two of the four to get the complete list. The extra ones that I had to install were
kio-extras-data
libkonq5-templates
and now Dolphin works as it should. Looks like the developers missed a dependency or two.

I must add that I have now a re-installed system using the 2 September iso. I had a lot of trouble doing the install as I got a message that the /home directory had 0Bytes. I thought that an 8GB USB should have been sufficient. So I used a 32GB USB and I didn't get that message.

Before the re-install, KSysGuard only showed the Memory and Swap History usage with the other two histories for CPU and Network having no content. After the re-install, it was still the same. So I wasted my time doing the re-install as I was hoping these problems would go away.

[claydoh]

what is with the new naming of network interfaces ,,,,,,,,,,,what usually is wlan0 is now wlp4s0 and eth0 is enp3s0f2 ? WTF ?


VINNY

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Soft...nterfaceNames/

"Predictable" does not mean "understandable" or "clear" I guess.

Sent from my LG G4

[vinnywright]

what is with the new naming of network interfaces ,,,,,,,,,,,what usually is wlan0 is now wlp4s0 and eth0 is enp3s0f2 ? WTF ?

on a lighter note ,,,,dropbox has dolphin context menus now ,,,,,, "move to dropbox" ,,,,,and in the dropbox DIR "share dropbox link" , "view on dropbox.com" , "view previous versions" and "comment on this file" ..........but no icon in the system tray.........I have not added any extra appindicator packages yet

quirks ,,,, every other login or so the volume widget in the system tray dose not show (remove it from system tray settings and readd it and it comes back) and evrey other login or so the leave ,logout reboot shutdown will not work ,,,,,,,some times resulting in being stuck at a blank screen ,,,,,,, ctrl+alt+sysrq SUB will get the reboot.


VINNY