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  • claydoh
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    Here it is, with many dupes

    https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402660

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  • oshunluvr
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    Originally posted by claydoh View Post
    This is not a new gripe
    https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=106603

    I forget about this, as I have for a long time just used the sidebar in Dolphin instead of the widget.
    Yeah, my comment is the last one is this post. I hadn't files an official bug report yet, but I may.

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  • claydoh
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    I can't (yet) find any bug reports on this, or any references to other instances in KDEs forum. Surprising, really. But my search foo may be junk.

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  • claydoh
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    This is not a new gripe
    https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=106603

    I forget about this, as I have for a long time just used the sidebar in Dolphin instead of the widget.
    Last edited by claydoh; Apr 08, 2019, 12:11 PM.

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  • TWPonKubuntu
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    oshuluver: AGREE.
    It is an unnecessary step to physically unplug and reinsert a USB stick. I'm using Disco and frequently pull backups to USB sticks. It is a PITA as it stands now.

    The terminology used: "eject", is probably a holdover from the CD/DVD era. Not a big problem but does need to be addressed in the next edit. A simple pair of options: "unmount" and "mount" should allow the stick to be left plugged in for these operations.

    I'm not competent enough to code this, but I do see it as a fairly easy bit of adjustment to the right-click menu options in Dolphin.

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  • v7peer
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    I like it the way it is now in Dolphin.
    I use Gnome-disk-utility (discs) to check if an usb-stick i mounted or not. Mounting and unmounting is one click in discs.

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  • Why is UN-MOUNT not an option with removable devices? One area windows is better...

    I complained about this years ago, but still no change. Here's the gripe:
    • You plug in a USB stick. You click "Mount with Dolphin" in Notifier or open Dolphin and open the device.
    • You do whatever with the device.
    • You are done and select the only available option; "Safely Eject Device".
    • You want to do something else with the device.
    • You now must physically remove the device and re-insert it.


    This is a horrible way to have to work. There are many use-cases where one might want to re-mount or re-use the device and there's NO REASON to have to remove and re-insert it first except maybe that the developer(s) of Dolphin and/or Notifier have decided so. A simple "Unmount" option is all that's needed.

    Example: You have a USB stick with some stuff on it but you want to reformat it or burn an ISO to it. So you insert it, move the files from the USB device to your hard drive. Currently, you now must "Safely Eject...", pull the stick out, push it back in, then reformat or burn. You have to go through all this even if you just forgot to copy one file to it or whatever.

    It's even worse if you are using a USB port on the backside of your monitor or desktop PC that's on the floor next to your desk. Nothing makes your day like standing up and reaching over the monitor or crawling on the floor beneath your desk yet again to complete a simple task.

    Here's the irritating part that I can't understand: WE DON'T NEED SAFELY EJECT AT ALL! That's right! All we need to do the unmount the device. Period. If it's unmounted, you can remove it. No problem. The only device I am aware of that requires an actual eject is a CD/DVD, which are handled by separate UDEV rules and are easily discernible from USB thumb drives, and they are notably easier to access as they are always in the front of your PC or the side of your laptop.

    I've tried to figure out why this was determined as the best course of action for thumb drives. I can't think of a single reason for this. Even Windows 10 now has drive caching turned off by default for removable devices - the reason you always had to eject a USB device from a Windows PC (what moron thought that was a good idea? Sorry, different rant).

    WHAT I WANT:

    First, Rebuttal: Am I totally or partial wrong minded on this? Please enlighten me.
    Second, Support: Do you agree with me? If so, I will (yet again) file a bug report and will ask you to add to it or vote for it so that it might get changed.
    Third, Resolution: I'm not afraid of code. If someone knows where I go the change the "eject" to "umount" point me at it and I'll do my best. I will even submit the fix along with the bug report if anyone agrees with me.

    P.S. Yes, I am fully aware that you can un-mount the device from the command line, which is what I have to do in these cases. This is the crux of the issue; if we have a GUI why can it not do something so simple, basic, and needed?

    I'm also curious to know if Gnome or XFCE or other DE's are the same or work better in this regard.

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