Seagate Hard Drive Weirdness

[vinnywright]

no apologies necessary among friends.

vinny

[GreyGeek]

No apologies necessary among friends.

[vinnywright]

Indeed! And I deserved that jab!

I hope you know I like and respect you ,,,,,,and all you do and say @hear.

I was just being playful and trying to be funny ,,,,,,,,,,,but a lot of people out hear in the physical world ,,,do say my ,,, playfulness ,,,,can be a bit harsh some times ... I'll just say I did not mean any harm or offense.

VINNY

[GreyGeek]

.... in response to GG's question ,,,,and then took a jab at him not you .

GG and I are old friends around hear ,,,,,and my comments had nothing to do with you.

...

VINNY

Indeed! And I deserved that jab!

[vinnywright]

I really shouldn't take offense, but I will ...

So your assumption is either that I'm technologically ignorant, or BTRFS is clearly superior simply because it is new and everyone should use only what is new. Both are simply foolish. And I'm done.

Absolutely not .

I quoted your original post to show that you had already stated that the file system was ext4 ,,,,in response to GG's question ,,,,and then took a jab at him not you .

GG and I are old friends around hear ,,,,,and my comments had nothing to do with you.

BUT I will apologize if I offended you in any way , it was certainly not my intent , you obviously are not "technologically ignorant" ,you had several installs going on at once using the same partitioning scheme to test the install failure's in a cohesive environment .

VINNY

[GreyGeek]

...

So your assumption is either that I'm technologically ignorant, or BTRFS is clearly superior simply because it is new and everyone should use only what is new. Both are simply foolish. And I'm done.

Neither statement was meant the way you are taking it. We're not RTFM type of people around here.

[jglen490]

looks like ,,,,no

I know you like BTRFS and so do I ,,,,,,,,,,but we are professional geeks ,,, I do not think the average person installing and playing at linux knows much if anything about BTRFS ,,,,or even much about ext*

and if they have heard of btrfs it would sound like a strange thing and say,,,,,"well ext4 is standard so I'll use that" ,,,,,,,,,,kind of response .

VINNY

I really shouldn't take offense, but I will ...

So your assumption is either that I'm technologically ignorant, or BTRFS is clearly superior simply because it is new and everyone should use only what is new. Both are simply foolish. And I'm done.

[vinnywright]

I guess the puzzlement to me is why I could do an actual install of an old Linux (Vector 7 Light) sandwiched in between failed installs of several different *buntu-based Linux distros, using the same EXT4 format and partitioning scheme for all.

Good points, Vinny!

Just out of curiosity, it would be interesting to see if Btrfs was used instead of Ext4.

looks like ,,,,no

I know you like BTRFS and so do I ,,,,,,,,,,but we are professional geeks ,,, I do not think the average person installing and playing at linux knows much if anything about BTRFS ,,,,or even much about ext*

and if they have heard of btrfs it would sound like a strange thing and say,,,,,"well ext4 is standard so I'll use that" ,,,,,,,,,,kind of response .

VINNY

[GreyGeek]

Good points, Vinny!

Just out of curiosity, it would be interesting to see if Btrfs was used instead of Ext4.

[vinnywright]

OR ,,,,,,maybe it was the cable not seated well ,or oxidation on the connections of the cable ,,,or it just needed a bit of a shake to free up a semi stuck head reader ,,,,,,,lots of possibilities

VINNY

[jglen490]

Sometimes a cosmic ray comes plowing through your equipment and triggers momentary instabilities. IIRC, every sq centimeter gets one cosmic ray every 10 seconds. Evaluation of past cosmic ray influxes points to them being the cause of the mass extinction of the Pleistocene megafauna and several genera of smaller mammals and birds. But, your WD seemed to have survived and didn't extinct!

I've never had bad mojo with a Seagate, until now, but WD has always pulled through. Just like the Man of Steel. Oh, you said "cosmic", not "comic". My bad )

[jglen490]

It's also possible that the 'hybrid' nature of that drive isn't fully compatible with Kubuntu.

Whatever that "nature" is, yep! All of the *buntus failed to load, so there's a kernel module perhaps that just is not giving what the drive expects to see. It's O.K. and it's still a working drive so my son can re-use it in his Windows world ...

[GreyGeek]

Now you're just using common sense. What fun is that?

[Snowhog]

It's also possible that the 'hybrid' nature of that drive isn't fully compatible with Kubuntu.

[GreyGeek]

O.K., I found a SATA enclosure and ran a smartmontools test. No errors. So it's O.K. and not (at this moment anyway) failing.

It's just weird.

Sometimes a cosmic ray comes plowing through your equipment and triggers momentary instabilities. IIRC, every sq centimeter gets one cosmic ray every 10 seconds. Evaluation of past cosmic ray influxes points to them being the cause of the mass extinction of the Pleistocene megafauna and several genera of smaller mammals and birds. But, your WD seemed to have survived and didn't extinct!