When, oh When?

[Fester Bestertester]

Another year goes by, and still flaky. Achtung, Muon devs!

[Fester Bestertester]

Rod J: That 'flash'-and-update seems to be the default still at 15.10. Is there no check for date/time of last update?

Latest experiment with a 15.04 boot reveals sane operation of Updater and its Panel notification: in fact, it's even better. When Update (or Upgrade) is completed successfully, the notification goes 'Hidden' as well as showing the green shield.

15.10 seems to show green shield in Panel after some time (often next day bootup). I'm wondering if there's a RTC/sys time clash/interaction in there? My RTC is UTC (I love all the TLAs ) and system time is set by NTP at boot. Wish Windblows would!

Still "When, oh When?" 16.04? 18.04?

[molecule-eye]

You can disable the System Tray from showing updates, which is what I've done. I manually check for updates anyway since I'm running a laptop and I don't want it doing unnecessary stuff in the background while I'm on battery.

[Fester Bestertester]

Thanks molecule-eye, but that's a work-around cosmetic that does nothing to effect a cure. Those notifications are valuable, I suspect the first and best such that most users will get of significant changes.
What changed .04-.10? Something in Muon/Updater? Plasma? KDE/Panel? Back deeper into Debian (Jessie?)? There's a whole range of possible causes, and that's 'way beyond my pay-grade.

BTW: I note I'm listed as a "Senior Member". That would only be chronological; My involvement is purely as a 'customer feedback' agent, reporting glitches in (my) user-experience. I just tell it like I find it, hoping others can do the actual 'bettering'. My sincere thanks to those folks! And incidentally, "Best of the Festive!"

[eddieg538]

There was another bug fix on jan 6th. Why are we not getting these bug fixes that could very will have fixed some of these problems?

[LinkBot]

There was another bug fix on jan 6th. Why are we not getting these bug fixes that could very will have fixed some of these problems?

Are you willing to help ?
Kubuntu Wire: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=940

[mparillo]

Are you willing to help ?
Kubuntu Wire: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=940

First, thanks for plugging the Kubuntu Wire. It hints that a preview of Plasma 5.5.3 is available now in Wily, and, in #kubuntu-devel, you will be advised to apply kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing and can be warned about known bugs (I am running it in Xenial via kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing and even at first, none of them were deal-breaking for me).

Second, it will probably be released to the main Kubuntu Backports PPA very soon.

[eddieg538]

Actually linkbot I would. You willing to teach?

[mparillo]

I know you were not replying to me, but I cannot resist. You will find knowledgeable teachers on #kubuntu-devel. Maybe not exactly when you want them, but if you are patient, I have found them to be very patient. My advice?
Start with one of:
- A computer you are willing to re-image if things get ugly
- A VM
- A really solid backup and a willingness to lose some time restoring to it.

Assuming you are already on Wily:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing
sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade

Report any upgrade errors on #kubuntu-devel
Reboot (in my case, I had to go to the konsole and sudo poweroff).
Then just do the stuff you normally like to do. If something funny occurs, ask on #kubuntu-devel. You may get "we know that already" or "please file a bug (usually either bugs.kde.org or launchpad.net)", and you may get a work-around. For example on a previous upgrade I was told that when I could launch programs from krunner but not the kicker, to simply remove them from my favorites and re-add them.

When your testing is done, you either blow away your vm, re-image your computer, or remove the -landing PPA.

[Teunis]

I used the kubuntu-ci weekly stable, last night there was an update and now I don't have a desktop...

[mparillo]

stable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIP6EwqMEoE

;-)

[claydoh]

I used the kubuntu-ci weekly stable, last night there was an update and now I don't have a desktop...

Lol! 'weekly' is accurate, but 'stable' is relative. In this case, to unstable raw gushings of new code

[Teunis]

A yes, I realise 'Stable' is in this context a moving target

Luckily the 'Weekly' is also to be interpreted liberally and after two daily updates the missing library likf5screen.so.6 has returned.

There is another problem caused by the dropping of Muon, see my next post.