Startup windows now on DesktopS?

[Fester Bestertester]

Is it a Solved? I'm uncertain as yet, but it looks like it.

Long-standing issue of windows open on several virtual desktops on shutdown all appearing on Desktop 1 on boot-up seems to have been solved in 15.10. Time will tell. I've been shutting down with 6 xpad notes on Desktop 4 (Yes I use that many), and all re-open properly, as do other apps on other desktops. I'll be trying shutting down in Desktop 1 now and seeing if all desktops re-create properly. Wish me luck

[Fester Bestertester]

Sorry, NOT solved. xpad notes appeared first, but were swamped under the app on Desktop 1. Not all appeared, either. All notes OK, but app on Desktop 3 did not re-start.

We should be able to shutdown (or reboot) from any Desktop with apps and multiple windows open on multiple Virtual Desktops, and have them all re-create in their respective Desktops (and in their correct positions and sizes) on re-start. This malarky has gone on far too long! Get GSoC or Randa or a similar session on it! Another LTS issue issued deficient / defective? I hope not!

[SecretCode]

I'm still happily on 14.04 but I know this issue. In my experience it only affects non-KDE apps: Dolphin windows and Konsole windows behave perfectly. (Kate seems to have an antipathy to running multiple windows.) Some games are fine. Firefox isn't. LibreOffice isn't.

I think the challenge is that some (cross-platform) apps take it on themselves to remember their window positions and sizes and to restore them on restart. But since W*****s doesn't have a real concept of multiple desktops, let alone activities, they don't make that a priority.

Should KDE override the position of apps that have explicitly moved their windows when/after creating them? I suspect there are pitfalls in this.

[Fester Bestertester]

Another morning bootup. Closed down in VD4 last night and all restored EXCEPT Dolphin's 4 windows in VD2. Firefox in VD1 as usual got embarrassed - 3 tabs, all typically changing contents overnight, but all manually restore on button-click - what goes there? A Firefox issue? Previous shutdown in VD4 didn't restore aMule in VD3, but that's the typically-flaky aMule not clearing its ~/.aMule/mulelock file. Restored fine this morning.
So confirmed: shutdown in VD4 (of 4) works fine. Shutdown in VD1 doesn't. Haven't tried other VD's; I'm working this issue in a daily-use scenario, which may or may not involve reboots or other than nightly shutdowns.

p.s. I'm calling the Virtual Desktops VDs - this issue *IS* a venereal disease! It also has a symptom in the Panel - Add the Pager widget *before* you've increased the default 1 VD in System Settings > Workspace > Desktop Behavior > Virtual Desktops, and you'll be adding more and more pagers to no visible effect. Adding this widget should *by default* do this increase (unless >1 already) . That 1 is the VD you're already working in! Amusing, no? (K)ubuntu has a dose of VD by default!

[Fester Bestertester]

I'd thought the bootup had been cured with the latest changelog, update-upgrade, but...
Not quite.
The last-noticed symptom remains. Dolphin does not restore. I run 3 instances (constant, occasionally more) in Virtual Desktop 2, and used to have them reappear there in the daily boot-up. Nothing at all there now.
Browser in VD1 - check (just wish Firefox would reliably remember its tabs and restore them). aMule in VD3 - check. 6 xpad notes in VD4 - check. And all this independent of which VD was in play on shutdown IIRC (Hey, boys, I think I'm gettin' old ).

[Fester Bestertester]

Now in 15.10, and still flaky . Are there any Plasma devs alive?

[oshunluvr]

Now in 15.10, and still flaky . Are there any Plasma devs alive?

This isn't a developer forum. Devs are more likely to be found on IRC: https://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels

[Fester Bestertester]

Thanks oshunluvr - but no traffic. Must be timezone effect (NZ here). Evening/night here is morning/worktime US. Do you (or anyone) know of a Forum like this one?

[claydoh]

KDE devs usually communicate in kde-specific mailing lists, and irc channels in freenode irc, as well as bug reports on bugs.kde.org. A number do frequent forum.kde.org. Might try searching the bug reports and the kde forum, as well as asking over on the forum as well.

#kde on freenode is often hopping busy, but yes the time zone is an issue, if any Aussies or Enzedds are not lurking. Sometimes you need to ask a question, and wait a while for someone to notice and reply.

[Fester Bestertester]

Thanks claydoh. I'm already registered at forum.kde.org, but so long ago - and now they've changed things and I can't get back in .How many forums do I need to join to get action?!! and how deep? Kubuntu, kde, plasma, I'm active here because I'd like to refine my experience (and others') of Kubuntu (and maybe Ubuntu, the 'parent').

[claydoh]

Kubuntu packages Plasma, Frameworks, and Applications, they don't really write the software. KFN provides user-to-user support. There really can't be Just One Forum, but since it is KDE specific things you have, and you want to communicate with the developers, you need to go where the KDE devs are. They don't usually go into distro-specific areas, as the distro side of things has little to do with what they are working on.

[Fester Bestertester]

Thanks claydoh. Back to the battle