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    Update notifier and number of packages to update

    Hi.
    The update notifier (if that's its name) keeps telling me: "There are X packages to update, of which Y are security updates". When I try to update, all I can see are the Y security updates. That's been happening since I updated to 15.04.
    What's with that?
    Thx!

    #2
    How are you attempting to update?

    What's the output of:

    sudo apt update
    sudo apt list --upgradable

    Please Read Me

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      #3
      Hi.
      What's the output of:

      sudo apt update
      sudo apt list --upgradable
      Code:
      fer@lx-fer:~$ sudo apt update
      [sudo] password for fer: 
      Ign http://archive.canonical.com maverick InRelease
      Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid InRelease                                 
      Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid InRelease                                  
      Obj http://archive.canonical.com maverick Release.gpg                         
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid Release.gpg         
      Obj http://archive.canonical.com maverick Release      
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid Release.gpg                                
      Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease                                 
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid Release          
      Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates InRelease  
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid Release             
      Obj http://archive.canonical.com maverick/partner Sources                                               
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main Sources                                                         
      Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security InRelease                        
      Obj http://archive.canonical.com maverick/partner amd64 Packages                                
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main amd64 Packages                                          
      Obj http://archive.canonical.com maverick/partner i386 Packages                                  
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main i386 Packages                                            
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid Release.gpg                                                  
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main Translation-en                                           
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main amd64 Packages                                           
      Des:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates Release.gpg [933 B]                                
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main i386 Packages                                                   
      Obj http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main Translation-en                                           
      Des:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security Release.gpg [933 B]                               
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid Release                                         
      Des:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates Release [63,5 kB]                                    
      Ign http://archive.canonical.com maverick/partner Translation-es_ES               
      Ign http://archive.canonical.com maverick/partner Translation-es                  
      Ign http://archive.canonical.com maverick/partner Translation-en
      Des:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security Release [63,5 kB]
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/main Sources       
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/restricted Sources
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/universe Sources
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/multiverse Sources
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/main amd64 Packages
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/restricted amd64 Packages
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/universe amd64 Packages
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/multiverse amd64 Packages
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/main i386 Packages
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/restricted i386 Packages
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/universe i386 Packages
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/multiverse i386 Packages
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/main Translation-es
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/main Translation-en
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/multiverse Translation-es
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/multiverse Translation-en
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/restricted Translation-es
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/restricted Translation-en
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/universe Translation-es
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid/universe Translation-en
      Des:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/main Sources [35,9 kB]
      Des:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/restricted Sources [28 B]
      Des:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/universe Sources [15,4 kB]
      Des:8 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/multiverse Sources [1.957 B]
      Des:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/main amd64 Packages [87,9 kB]
      Des:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [28 B]
      Des:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/universe amd64 Packages [47,8 kB]
      Des:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [3.494 B]
      Des:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/main i386 Packages [87,3 kB]
      Des:14 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/restricted i386 Packages [28 B]                                                                 
      Des:15 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/universe i386 Packages [47,8 kB]                                                                
      Des:16 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [3.680 B]                                                              
      Des:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/main Translation-en [43,4 kB]                                                                   
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/multiverse Translation-en                                                                          
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/restricted Translation-en                                                                          
      Des:18 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates/universe Translation-en [27,1 kB]                                                               
      Des:19 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/main Sources [19,3 kB]                                                                         
      Des:20 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/restricted Sources [28 B]                                                                      
      Des:21 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/universe Sources [7.689 B]                                                                     
      Des:22 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/multiverse Sources [1.957 B]                                                                   
      Des:23 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/main amd64 Packages [55,2 kB]                                                                  
      Des:24 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/restricted amd64 Packages [28 B]                                                               
      Des:25 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/universe amd64 Packages [23,8 kB]                                                              
      Des:26 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [3.494 B]                                                            
      Des:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/main i386 Packages [54,7 kB]                                                                   
      Des:28 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/restricted i386 Packages [28 B]                                                                
      Des:29 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/universe i386 Packages [23,8 kB]                                                               
      Des:30 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/multiverse i386 Packages [3.680 B]                                                             
      Des:31 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/main Translation-en [27,9 kB]                                                                  
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/multiverse Translation-en                                                                         
      Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/restricted Translation-en                                                                         
      Des:32 http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-security/universe Translation-en [15,5 kB]                                                              
      Descargados 768 kB en 9s (80,1 kB/s)                                                                                                           
      Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
      Creando árbol de dependencias       
      Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
      Se pueden actualizar 49 paquetes. Ejecute «apt list --upgradable» para verlos.
      fer@lx-fer:~$ sudo apt list --upgradable
      Listando... Hecho
      libqt4-dbus/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-declarative/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-designer/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-dev/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-dev-bin/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-help/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-network/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-opengl/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-opengl-dev/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-qt3support/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-script/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-scripttools/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-sql/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-sql-mysql/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-sql-sqlite/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-svg/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-test/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-xml/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt4-xmlpatterns/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqt5concurrent5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5core5a/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5dbus5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5gui5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5network5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5opengl5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5printsupport5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5sql5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5sql5-sqlite/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5test5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5widgets5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqt5xml5/vivid-updates,vivid-security 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4]
      libqtcore4/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqtdbus4/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      libqtgui4/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      qdbus/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      qt4-linguist-tools/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      qt4-qmake/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 amd64 [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      qtcore4-l10n/vivid-updates,vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 all [actualizable desde: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6]
      fer@lx-fer:~$
      It's in Spanish, but it basically says that there are 49 upgradeable packages. Meanwhile, the update notifier says there are 147 packages to update, of which 49 are security updates. So it appears that it somehow "inflates" the number of packages ready to update but it then updates the real ones available?

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        #4
        Please run these two commands:
        Code:
        apt -s upgrade
        
        apt -s full-upgrade
        These are just simulation runs, no changes will be made to the packages. At the end of each run, you'll see a line something like "W upgraded, X newly installed, Y to remove and Z not upgraded." What is that line in each of the above simulation runs?

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          #5
          Hey.

          Code:
          apt -s upgrade
          returns:
          Code:
          4 actualizados, 4 nuevos se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.
          Code:
          apt -s full-upgrade
          returns:
          Code:
          4 actualizados, 4 nuevos se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados.
          Spanish for 4 updated, 4 to install, 0 to eliminate and 0 not updated.
          At the time, update manager was indicating 24 packages to update, of which 8 are security updates.

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            #6
            Hm. How have you gone from 49 and 147 in your post #3 to 4 and 24 in your post #5?

            Comment


              #7
              I see the same problem using the Update Notifier. Today it was 9 packages to update, of which 3 are security updates.

              I only see the security updates in the list after clicking "Update" in the notifier.

              Code:
              apt -s upgrade
              
               [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
              
              sudo apt update
              
              [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]All packages are up to date.[/COLOR][/FONT]
              It would be nice to know what packages, other than the security updates, are being updated, when using the Update Manager.

              Comment


                #8
                Why are there both 32 & 64 bit packages involved? - see post 3.

                Comment


                  #9
                  I had a package only update today, and saw it in the Update Manager.

                  Waiting to see what happens when there are security and package updates again.

                  Maybe I won't be going back to 14.10.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Hm. How have you gone from 49 and 147 in your post #3 to 4 and 24 in your post #5?
                    Different days; I've been updating all this time, you know...

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