Don't upgrade to 15.04 just yet, like I did

[Spadge]

Bug #1422469: Dolphin won't keep the folder shortcuts on Kubuntu 15.04 with Plasma 5 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpa...s/+bug/1422469

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/vi...ay/008511.html

That's half the bug. And two weeks ago. It's not trickled down anywhere I'll see it yet though.

Thanks.

[Spadge]

Having to log into the kwallet after logging into the OS is annoying as well.

Bug #1451865: Kwallet is no longer automatically unlocked on login - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...a/+bug/1451865

[richb]

Places in Dolphin are working fine for me.

[Qqmike]

Lots of varied experiences with 15.04. I'm very happy with my 14.04, no intent to switch yet. But I did have an experience with 15.04. Doing some experiments, re-booting many, many times between HDDs and Kubuntu 14.04 and 15.04, doing the same tasks in each, lots of file management and accessing drives and partitions, and for sure, something is a bit amiss about 15.04. I didn't document this as I am focused on another issue (UEFI booting), but the side-by-side comparison booting quickly between the 14.04 and 15.04 was noticeable. Not so smooth in 15.04, strange line-drawn icons in LibreOffice Writer, unpredictable device notifier, problems mounting & unmounting from it, Kate (right-click Open With Kate in Dolphin) would not open from either a user prompt or from a root prompt (I ended up opening text in LibreOffice Writer), Dolphin rather flaky in several ways I can't recall at the moment--just not all there, fighting me, unpredictable behavior accessing devices and files. Personally, I didn't find the look-and-feel to be right or comfortable or appealing, but I'm not too hung up on all this business of themes and such anyway, I just "felt" better in 14.04 versus 15.04. I'm pooped at the moment, that's all I can easily recall, been doing booting experiments for several days. I know it will all be fixed and will evolve into a great OS and the devs have worked hard on it and are working hard on it. They sure as h*ll produced a great 14.04!

[SeijiSensei]

I've looked at 15.04 in a VirtualBox VM and didn't see any compelling reasons to switch to KDE5. I'll wait until 16.04 and give it another try then.

[oshunluvr]

Places in Dolphin are working fine for me.

Odd because for me, additions to Places do not save (still), however IMO describing Dolphin as "barely works at all" is a gross over-statement.

[Wheel Inventor]

Without package version numbers...

oshunluvr

Originally Posted by richb
Places in Dolphin are working fine for me.



Odd because for me, additions to Places do not save ...

There are available (2015-05-25):

- kde4libs (4:4.14.6-4~ubuntu3) Ubuntu repository version.
- kde4libs (4:4.14.6-4~ubuntu3.1) Ubuntu proposed.
- kde4libs (4:4.14.7-4~ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1) Kubuntu backports ppa.

Only the kde4libs (4:4.14.6-4~ubuntu3.1) Ubuntu proposed has the upstream_Remove-bookmarks-syncing-from-KFilePlacesModel-and-u.patch.

[Spadge]

Odd because for me, additions to Places do not save (still), however IMO describing Dolphin as "barely works at all" is a gross over-statement.

Sure, I exaggerate. In my defence it was crashing every time I tried to do anything with Places, and I had more than a window full of duplicated sets of the basic four. Meaning I could see without scrolling the drives I have to manually mount on every startup.

Places still won't add samba shares, but trying to add one still causes the other places (Home, Network, Root, Wastebin) to duplicate a new set. Deleting two of the three sets still leaves me with two sets.

spadge@Jupiter:~$ sudo dpkg -l kdelibs* | grep ^ii
ii  kdelibs-bin      4:4.14.7-4~ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1 amd64        core executables for KDE Applications
ii  kdelibs5-data    4:4.14.7-4~ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1 all          core shared data for all KDE Applications
ii  kdelibs5-plugins 4:4.14.7-4~ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1 amd64        core plugins for KDE Applications

[oshunluvr]

Well, I get that (exaggerating when ticked off, lol ) - no need to defend yourself. I haven't tried what you've done there - I rarely use samba for file transfers, and I haven't had any crashes, but I'll try it out to see if I get the same results.

Thanks for the tip, Wheel. I'll look into my version. I do have backports enabled so you've nailed the cause here - same versions as Spadge. Odd that the newer version doesn't have the fix. I did see the upcoming October (w?? w??) release has the patch. They probably did that just to tick me off.

[NoWorries]

I must say that I agree that Vivid is not ready for replacing your previous preferred version that was working fine. I just have it installed on a USB stick to keep tabs on progress.

Regarding Dolphin, I seldom added folders to "Places". I have found that the only way I could get a folder into "Places" was to right mouse click on the folder and select the option to "Add to Places". I was not able to move the folders listed in "Places" so that they were alphabetical. I tried to do this because all folders that I added were placed at the bottom of the list. During the process of adding a folder to "Places", the notifications applet showed that it was copying and the desktop was unusable until this process was finished. I have found that this is a common feature of notifications.

I must say that Dolphin has one feature that I really like. It now will play media files in the right panel that on Utopic only displays image files.

[SeijiSensei]

I was not able to move the folders listed in "Places" so that they were alphabetical.

I've always found that I could move items in Places just by dragging them up or down the list with the mouse. This was true through 14.04 at least; I haven't used 15.04 enough to know if that still works.

I can drag folders from the main window to Places as well and drop them wherever I want in the list.

[NoWorries]

I've always found that I could move items in Places just by dragging them up or down the list with the mouse. This was true through 14.04 at least; I haven't used 15.04 enough to know if that still works.

I can drag folders from the main window to Places as well and drop them wherever I want in the list.

You will find that Vivid involves a complete rework of the KDE desktop and there are many changes involved. I found that when I rebooted, the folders that I had added to "Places" were no longer there!!!

I can add and move folders in Utopic's "Places" without any trouble, but it is a different matter with Vivid which has Plasma 5.3.0. Wily which has Plasma 5.2.2 works with "Places" and it is yet to reach Alpha 1! So I am hoping that when Plasma 5.3.1 comes, this problem will be resolved in Vivid.

[claydoh]

And of course, my Places are moveable, addable, and remain through reboots, with 5.3 from Kubuntu-backports ppa, on my laptop.

Course it does not work on my upgraded-since-at-least-raring PC, with the same kde/plasma.frameworks

[NoWorries]

And of course, my Places are moveable, addable, and remain through reboots, with 5.3 from Kubuntu-backports ppa, on my laptop.

Does this laptop have Utopic with 5.3 installed or does it have Vivid?

Course it does not work on my upgraded-since-at-least-raring PC, with the same kde/plasma.frameworks

I assume that this one has Vivid installed, or am I jumping to the wrong conclusion?

My experiences are the same as:

Odd because for me, additions to Places do not save (still),...

I now find that Vivid's Dolphin allows additions to "Places" but when I restart Dolphin they are all gone.

[claydoh]

Does this laptop have Utopic with 5.3 installed or does it have Vivid?

I assume that this one has Vivid installed, or am I jumping to the wrong conclusion?

My experiences are the same as:I now find that Vivid's Dolphin allows additions to "Places" but when I restart Dolphin they are all gone.

Both are vivid machines, of course (the only way to run the current versions of plasma 5, frameworks, and applications)

I suspect it's an upgrade issue, as this is where I have the bug. My 2 clean installs are fine. The upgrade box has the bookmark files in two places. Haven't tried looking into that yet.

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