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    #31
    I ran the simulation test command and this is what I got:

    marco@Lenovo:~$ apt-get -s dist-upgrade
    NOTE: This is only a simulation!
    apt-get needs root privileges for real execution.
    Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
    so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    marco@Lenovo:~$

    I have been regularly using Muon for update/upgrading ever since installation of kubuntu 14.04 on this Lenova Thinkcenter desktop.
    It seems my system must be good.

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      #32
      yea. the simulation is great! what are your repositories? how many do you have?

      ive played around with it with different edits of sources.list , for example just leaving one repository there: 'main' and then running simulation where the dist-upgrade among the updates wanted to remove 4 programs - seeing them unfit , he he, i guess. it's very cool option.

      btw.ubuntu wiki is almost useless. like this entry https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootServices

      1. bum is frikking crap, shows like 4 services running on my server, doesnt show squid, doesnt show plexmediaserver and i know those are running
      2. wiki which suggests: sudo apt-get install rcconf for services management

      which is not in repos,
      its difficult to find any useful information there.

      seriously toying with the idea of rebuilding the server on a SSD with Debian just to have a useful wiki to learn from.


      yes. i say a lot of stupid stuff lol
      Last edited by millusions; Nov 19, 2014, 05:49 AM.
      K 14.4 64 AMD 955be3200MHz 8GB 1866Mhz 6TB Plex/samba.etc.+ Macbook Air 13".

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        #33
        yea. the simulation is great! what are your repositories? how many do you have?
        Here is a snapshot of my sources. I konw it my be non-readable due to small letters. The first one is Canonical partners, second one is Independent, 3rd Libreoffice, 4th Claydoh's Kmymoney, 5th Google Talk plugin and the last one Kubuntu's backport.

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        Last edited by SteveRiley; Nov 18, 2014, 11:22 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by millusions View Post
          2. wiki which suggests: sudo apt-get install rcconf for services management
          which is not in repos
          It's in Universe. If you've enabled only Main, that's why you aren't seeing it:
          Code:
          steve@t520:~$ [B]apt-cache policy rcconf[/B]
          rcconf:
            Installed: (none)
            Candidate: 3.1ubuntu1
            Version table:
               3.1ubuntu1 0
                  500 http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu/ utopic/universe amd64 Packages

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            #35
            thanks Steve,
            it actually worked this time...
            maybe because i ended up doing dist-upgrade this afternoon..
            weird
            K 14.4 64 AMD 955be3200MHz 8GB 1866Mhz 6TB Plex/samba.etc.+ Macbook Air 13".

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              #36
              Originally posted by Snowhog View Post
              An achilles heel, dist-upgrade is not; for Kubuntu or other. One just needs to understand the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade.
              Code:
                     upgrade
                         upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in /etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently
                         installed with new versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages not already installed
                         retrieved and installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without changing the install status of another package will be left at their
                         current version. An update must be performed first so that apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available.
              
                     dist-upgrade
                         dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a "smart"
                         conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less important ones if necessary. The dist-upgrade command may
                         therefore remove some packages. The /etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of locations from which to retrieve desired package files. See also apt_preferences(5) for a
                         mechanism for overriding the general settings for individual packages.
              dist-upgrade is the only thing I use, and my system is, has been, and will remain, rock solid stable.

              thanks for clarifying this!

              had 120 odd updates waiting as i was too chicken to update for a while..
              but decided to give it a shot today,
              and you know what?
              updates were a 320mb download, and it worked flawlessly not one issue with it. obviously when i br0ked a few things in the past i did the upgrade thing...

              i have so much to learn! thanks again!
              K 14.4 64 AMD 955be3200MHz 8GB 1866Mhz 6TB Plex/samba.etc.+ Macbook Air 13".

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                #37
                Originally posted by millusions View Post
                had 120 odd updates waiting as i was too chicken to update for a while..
                but decided to give it a shot today,
                and you know what?
                updates were a 320mb download, and it worked flawlessly not one issue with it. obviously when i br0ked a few things in the past i did the upgrade thing...
                APT/dpkg are really quite good at what they do

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