No Package Manager 14.04

[Robtygart]

So what happened to the package manager in 14.04?

I liked it, do I need to download it? If so could somone post the command

sudo apt-get install ??????

Should I use muon or is Synaptic better?

[Jimmy.P]

They replaced muon with muon-discover. Yes you have to download muon by your self. I recommend muon because it is a great piece of software. And it is made in qt

Forgot "sudo apt-get install muon" or "sudo apt install muon" also works.

[Gavin77]

I've got both Muon and Synaptic installed. I personally prefer Synaptic because I can right-click an entry and select Recommended and Suggested packages. Muon still can't do that.

[dequire]

I've got both Muon and Synaptic installed. I personally prefer Synaptic because I can right-click an entry and select Recommended and Suggested packages. Muon still can't do that.

Actually, Muon Discover can. It's built-in.

[oshunluvr]

I never liked synaptic. Apper is another alternative buts it's just OK. Muon breaks a lot and doesn't handle errors well. I still use the command line for anything except searching for a package. It's just easier and faster IMO.

[sithlord48]

apt search works really nice and the output is easier to read then apt-cache search's output with more info.

chris@void:~$ apt search muon
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
debconf-kde-dbg/trusty 0.3-1 amd64
  Debconf KDE debugging symbols

debconf-kde-helper/trusty 0.3-1 amd64
  Debconf KDE GUI frontend tool

libdebconf-kde-dev/trusty 0.3-1 amd64
  Development headers for the Debconf KDE library

libdebconf-kde0/trusty,now 0.3-1 amd64 [installed]
  Debconf KDE GUI library

libmuonprivate2/trusty,now 2.2.0-0ubuntu3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
  Runtime files for the Muon package management suite

libnexus0/trusty 4.3.2-svn1919-1 amd64
  NeXus scientific data file format - runtime libraries

libnexus0-dev/trusty 4.3.2-svn1919-1 amd64
  NeXus scientific data file format - development libraries

libnexus0-java/trusty 4.3.2-svn1919-1 amd64
  NeXus scientific data file format - java libraries

muon/trusty,now 2.2.0-0ubuntu3 amd64 [installed]
  package manager for KDE

muon-dbg/trusty 2.2.0-0ubuntu3 amd64
  Muon debugging symbols

muon-discover/trusty,now 2.2.0-0ubuntu3 amd64 [installed]
  Utility for browsing, installing, and removing applications

muon-installer/trusty,now 2.2.0-0ubuntu3 amd64 [installed]
  Utility for browsing, installing, and removing applications

muon-notifier/trusty,now 2.2.0-0ubuntu3 amd64 [installed]
  update notifier for KDE

muon-updater/trusty,now 2.2.0-0ubuntu3 amd64 [installed]
  update manager for KDE

nexus-tools/trusty 4.3.2-svn1919-1 amd64
  NeXus scientific data file format - applications

python-nxs/trusty 4.3.2-svn1919-1 all
  NeXus scientific data file format - python binding

update-manager-kde/trusty 1:0.196.11 all
  Support modules for Muon Notifier and Apper

[Robtygart]

Thank you, I installed muon!

I don't understand why they would take it out, it is needed for a lot of things that "discover" does not show.

[Teunis]

A couple of weeks ago I started a thread about the same.
The answer is roughly you can only put so much on a disk and out of the box catering for the n00bs is more important than for those who already know their way.

[claydoh]

I wouldn't call it catering to the newbie user, but rather to the general user. It also fixes a "bug" of sorts in that Kubuntu had 2 different apps for the same general job.

Sent from my Droid DNA using Tapatalk, like that really matters

[Robtygart]

A couple of weeks ago I started a thread about the same.
The answer is roughly you can only put so much on a disk and out of the box catering for the n00bs is more important than for those who already know their way.

Its sad you should put it like that, There are alot of "n00bs" out there, most people only can turn their computer on and off, and when it dose not come back on they buy a new one. You shouldn't need to muck with things, its sould be so easy grandma could do it.

I would not call myself a n00b at all, but when you take away a well used peice of software, it throws you off a bit.

[Teunis]

Sorry if my word/classification n00b came over as a negative, I just wanted to explain the way I perceive the choice of one over another applications manager.
The 'original' required a little more insight than the new one, the new one IS comparatively better for new starts.
Regretfully it misses some options appreciated in the older one.