What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

[KStorm]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

I installed Kubuntu 11.04 in a partition alongside Ubuntu 11.04...Kubuntu definitely has the advantage over the new Unity environment, since KDE4 is much more robust. No problems whatsoever except for manually editing dhclient.conf to employ openDNS servers.

Here's a great review, and I wholeheartedly concur.

http://www.jlacroix.me/?p=1999

[woodsmoke]

One suggestion on installing Natty or upgrade

I realize that I'm not a developer, just a hardware kinda guy but I have had multiple times when I could not get a distro to install, the whole tty1 on the black screen of death etc. the whole nine yards.

After a few years of this I chanced on something that seems to work "most" of the time.

And that is to remove any kind of "high end" video card and replace it with the least innocuous that I can find.

All distros can hit the older cards. Nowadays I use an Nvidia Geforce 6600 type card, a 512k.

After I do that I do what I can to install Nvidia video drivers, change out to the better card and reboot and it almost always works with a distro that would not so work two hour earlier.

I really became convinced of this a few months ago when I had the dreaded TTY1 black screen appear and even posted here about it.

I realize that many people THINK that they could not change out a card, but the first time I saw it being done it was done by a disabled lady that HAD to do it and found out that she could, indeed, remove a side panel, remove one screw, undo the cable and pull out the card and replace it.

She then started making computers for other disabled people.

There is also the expense. Maybe 15 bucks USD.

After the distro is up and running install any video drivers that you can or driver installers and change out the card.

So....just a suggestion.

woodsmoke

[ScottyK]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

Updated the notebook last night, and it went off without a hitch. What took 2.5 hours to download on launch day only took 11 minutes three days later.

Lesson learned - Wait a few days after launch, and let someone ELSE be the Guinna pig!

[buzzmandt]

Re: What upgrade?!!!!

You lucky folks have Natty to try. I can't get it to download! The very first step, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu, is to click on the upgrade notification. Well, I'm running 10.10 64-bit Kubuntu, and I don't get an upgrade notification. Not only that, but neither Synaptic nor KPackageKit seem to know anything about it. I guess it really is released now, but I don't know why I see no sign of it.

you need to check the sources. from kpackagekit click on settings>edit origins>update tab and check that "show distribution release" is set to "normal releases". this seems to default to long term releases only and that will keep you from seeing your upgrade option.

[pwabrahams]

Re: What upgrade?!!!!

you need to check the sources. from kpackagekit click on settings>edit origins>update tab and check that "show distribution release" is set to "normal releases". this seems to default to long term releases only and that will keep you from seeing your upgrade option.

I've had the distribution releases set to "normal" all along. That's not the problem. The effect of all my efforts to fix the problem, however, is that after reinstalling kpackagekit, it segfaults on startup.

Maybe I should just give up, retrieve the alternate distribution CD, and install from there even though I have a perfectly good Internet connection.

[buzzmandt]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

Ok, i think as a last resort you could edit /etc/apt/sources.list (I usually do this with kate. kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list)and change all instances of maverick to natty, save, close, update, then dist-upgrade. I think it's not recommended but it has worked for me in the past.

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

[ubuntuku]

Re: What upgrade?!!!!

I've had the distribution releases set to "normal" all along. That's not the problem. The effect of all my efforts to fix the problem, however, is that after reinstalling kpackagekit, it segfaults on startup.

Maybe I should just give up, retrieve the alternate distribution CD, and install from there even though I have a perfectly good Internet connection.

Have you tried the following command?

sudo do-release-upgrade -d

[pwabrahams]

No new release found!!!

Here's what I get:

pwa@pwa-K60IJ:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[sudo] password for pwa: 
Checking for a new ubuntu release
No new release found

It seems that the upgrade mechanism is totally and wrongly convinced that no upgrade exists. The fact that no one else seems to have reported this problem should be a clue, but I don't know how to interpret it.

An extra (but avoidable) complication is that the version of kpackagekit I now have installed segfaults on startup. This is a reported bug.

[larbac]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

Latest upgrade to my laptop (luckily I didn't do it on my Desktop).

It fail, cannot start KDE (can't find ethais theme). Already edited kdrmc, but no go......

[kjjjjshab]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

Now that 11.04 final is out, how is everybody doing upgrading and or installing? I've got three computers currently running 10.10, and wanted to see how the upgrade experience is going before I take the plunge. Thanks!

Went from 10.04 to 10.10 (for a night) and then right into 11.04 beta and final with no issues (other than some minor things in the beta, but just aesthetic mainly).

[pwabrahams]

Two other systems, same problem!!!

This is utterly baffling. It seems that 90% of the world gets the update notification and is able at least to start the Natty upgrade. But in my case, I not only have my primary Maverick installation, but two others: one in a different partition on the same machine and the other on a different machine altogether. And all three fail the most robust test: sudo do-release-upgrade. I'm now in the process of doing the Alternate CD method on one of those systems.

[wizard10000]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

I'm gonna do things a little differently next time, I think.

I've given it a lot of thought and think dibl might have the right idea - at least the right idea for me. Next install I'm gonna mount my current home partitions as /data and just go back to a home directory instead of a home partition. Heck, I may even do it next week just for fun

I can symlink in my documents and multimedia plus I might symlink /var and /tmp on my desktop PC and get them off the SSD.

Retaining all those dotfiles between releases tends to leave KDE a little unstable, at least IME. It wouldn't be hard to retain the dotfiles I really wanted to keep, symlink in documents, email, music and videos and call it good.

[MoonRise]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

Retaining all those dotfiles between releases tends to leave KDE a little unstable, at least IME.

I can say for my desktop I had to remove the .kde directory to make my system behave. Yes I agree that some of those seem to cause issues but I'll just keep the /home map as I generally know when my system is misbehaving the first thing I do is check that.

[wizard10000]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

I can say for my desktop I had to remove the .kde directory to make my system behave. Yes I agree that some of those seem to cause issues but I'll just keep the /home map as I generally know when my system is misbehaving the first thing I do is check that.

I just finished making the change to my netbook. Changed fstab so that the former home partition was mounted as /data, logged on in recovery mode and created /home and my user directory, chowned wizard:wizard /home/wizard then su to wizard, fired up mc and moved most of the data into my home directory. symlinked documents, music, videos, .emerald, .claws-mail, my mail archive and my scripts directory into my home directory. Worked without a hiccup

Total time including the smoke break? 30 minutes. I heart mc

[ScottyK]

Re: What is everybody's upgrading/installation experience so far?

Just tried to install 11.04 on the kids windows machine. Upon first boot, windows partition was intact. Tried to boot into Kubuntu, and just got a black screen.

Several boots later still produced a black screen.

Ran recovery mode, and let it fix broken packages.

Then installed current nivida drivers.

Now instead of a black screen, I get weird gibberish.

Tried to recompile the kernel for the video drivers, but nothing.

Not sure what the problem is here, a clean install on a dual-boot computer has never given me any problems. And it's older hardware, so I don't think that's it also. Might nuke 11.04 and retry 10.10