MSI 8400GS not detected.

[wunderbred]

Hello I bought a new video card an MSI 8400gs. my old one was a Asus 8400gs the reason I put the ne one in was I wanted the s-video out of my asus for my other computer. I figured they were both nvidia the currently installed drivers would work. Well it did kinda how ever when I run nvidia-settings under the gpu it is listed as unknown gpu. I tried un-installing the drivers and re-ran the Hardware Drivers app but it didn't detect anything. I decided to try a fresh install and still it didn't detect my video card. I manually installed the nivida-current driver but it still says unknown gpu in the nvidia settings. I also have limited functionality in some programs. In World of Warcraft it has the video settings locked at the lowest and won't let me raise them very high, however the game runs very nicely. Any idea of what I could do to fix this?

[ardvark71]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

Hi....

Welcome to the forums

Could you run this command:

lspci

and please post the results? Thanks!

Regards...

[wunderbred]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

This is the result of lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 02)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 10c3 (rev a2)
01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0)
03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 03)
03:00.1 IDE interface: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 03)
05:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev c0)

[ardvark71]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

Hi...

I'm not sure why lspci doesn't recognize the chipset. The only thing I've found that you could try at this point would be to open a terminal and enter this command:

sudo update-pciids

However, at the same time, I don't see why your current version can't detect a chipset that old.

Did any of your Nvidia driver softwares create an xorg.conf file? If so, please post that as well along with the results of this code:

lspci | grep VGA

Also, one of our members, dibl, wrote a help post regarding Nvidia proprietary drivers. You can find it here. It may be of some help.

Thanks...

Regards...

[wunderbred]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

after I manually installed the drivers using :

sudo apt-get install nvidia-current

I ran :

sudo nvidia-xconfig

and that created an xorg.conf file. This is the file it created.

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder75) Thu Apr 22 11:44:23 PDT 2010

Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier   "Layout0"
  Screen   0 "Screen0"
  InputDevice  "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
  InputDevice  "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  # generated from default
  Identifier   "Mouse0"
  Driver     "mouse"
  Option     "Protocol" "auto"
  Option     "Device" "/dev/psaux"
  Option     "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
  Option     "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
  # generated from default
  Identifier   "Keyboard0"
  Driver     "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
  Identifier   "Monitor0"
  VendorName   "Unknown"
  ModelName   "Unknown"
  HorizSync    28.0 - 33.0
  VertRefresh   43.0 - 72.0
  Option     "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
  Identifier   "Device0"
  Driver     "nvidia"
  VendorName   "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  Identifier   "Screen0"
  Device     "Device0"
  Monitor    "Monitor0"
  DefaultDepth  24
  SubSection   "Display"
    Depth    24
  EndSubSection
EndSection

this is the output of

lspci | grep VGA

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400GS] (rev a2)

[ardvark71]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

Hi....

I don't know if it means anything but I noticed that the results given between "lspci" and "lspci | grep VGA" are different. On mine, both are the same:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1)

I also looked at my set up and found that under my xorg.conf file, the entry under "Identifier" reads "Default Device," not "device0," as yours does. Again, I'm not sure if this signifies anything.

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what's going on here other than possibly some kind of conflict that Kubuntu is having with your swap of graphics cards.

I can poke around a bit more on Google and see if something comes up...and if anyone else of the forum has any ideas, please feel free to chime in.

EDIT: I found this page here where the OP had a similar problem, except that it involved an ATI card. In this case, the card was just too new to be supported by either free or proprietary drivers.

Regards...

[wunderbred]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

Your right I didn't notice that before. Now when I do lspci the VGA device gives my card name. However when I enter nvidia-settings it still says unknown gpu.

As for the "Identifier" part it's just an identifier which is refereed to under the "Screen" section lower down in the file.

Either way it still functions fine for the most part. I figured it would swap out fine since they were both 8400gs cards but I guess there is also differences between manufacturers (old card asus, new card msi).

Thanks for the help either way after I ran update-pciids, lspci was recognizing my card so thats a start.

[ardvark71]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

Thanks for the help either way after I ran update-pciids, lspci was recognizing my card so thats a start.

Hi...

You're welcome, glad to help.

I kind of wondered if you had done that since the results were different. I guess you could completely uninstalling the proprietary driver (and associated software) and then reinstalling it. It might help.

Also, I was referring the section labeled "Section 'Device," not "Screen."

Regards...

[wunderbred]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

I did uninstall the proprietary drivers and then the kubuntu hardware driver wouldn't detect my new card to reinstall it, so I reformatted and started with a clean install. Still it wouldn't detect my card so I manually installed the drivers using

sudo apt-get install nvidia-common

Then I ran

nvidia-xconfig

This created my new xorg.conf file.


I was also referring to the section labeled "Section 'Device'" The identifier tag under that section is a reference for the "Device" tag under the "Section 'Screen'" so it can load the proper drivers for the device. it can be named anything as long as the "Section 'Device'" identifier is identical to the "Device" tag under "Section 'Screen'"

[ardvark71]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

Hi...

Honestly, the best suggestion I know to give you at this point is to return the MSI card for a refund (if at all possible) and to purchase another Asus card, like the one you swapped out. Here is one that might do the job.

I have no idea why Kubuntu is not recognizing the chipset, even after you updated lspci.

Regards...

[oshunluvr]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

If you're getting

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1)

seems to me you're card is being detected.

Besides nvidia-common and and the latest drivers you also need the linux-headers version that matches your linux-kernel file and dkms.

Once you have all those installed, jockey should work. If not, start with reviewing /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors and warnings.

[ardvark71]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

If you're getting

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1)

seems to me you're card is being detected.

Besides nvidia-common and and the latest drivers you also need the linux-headers version that matches your linux-kernel file and dkms.

Once you have all those installed, jockey should work. If not, start with reviewing /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors and warnings.

Thanks, oshunluvr, for your input.

Regards...

[wunderbred]

Re: MSI 8400GS not detected.

Yes now it is detecting, but it is still listed as unknown gpu in the nvidia-settings app, and until today I couldn't raise my world of warcraft video settings above the minimum. However there was a large update too world of warcraft, now I can raise my settings. It seems that the issues were unrelated, but since both were video related I figured the issues themselves were related. In hind site if I ran the wow repair application it probably would have fixed it awhile back.

Thanks for the all the help.