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    Plagued with system updates not working and repo's complaining about wrong keys

    I'm having problems updating Kubuntu.
    Muon is telling me new updates is available. So I said yes to the install. The files to be downloaded is in the region of 780Mb, so its basically everything. It was complaining about invalid keys and stuff which meant too much detail to bother at the time, so I left it un-updated.

    This morning my PC rebooted telling me some error occurred which I reported. A bit later I want to add just Kfind, but it simply tells me "Waiting for other transactions to finish." I rebooted, again got the error and tried to install Kfind with the same result. I then decided to try the update and also got "Waiting for other transaction to finish."
    I had to use System monitor to kill it.

    So I tried just via konsole "sudo apt-get install kfind" and get this message "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/"

    Rebooted again. Same problem. I have no idea what is locked now and why.
    I am using 14.04 LTS

    #2
    You might want to start by trying to finish the update from the command line.
    First:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    Next:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    If this results in an error it likely includes a suggestion on how to fix, follow the suggestion.

    The error messages might include the names of the bad keys, copy them and post them here.

    ------------
    An explanation of the lock file and how you can sometimes 'reset' it by simply deleting it:

    To avoid more than one instance of updates running at the same time the first one (in this case likely Muon package manager) will set a lock, that lock is a file.
    Would this update for some reason be interrupted, like a Muon crash, this lock is not removed as it should be during a normal exit of the updates.

    Next time you try to start an update the software will notice the lock file and refuse to run.
    Luckily it shows an error that includes the name & address of the lock file

    You can easily remove the lock file via the Konsole or terminal by this command:
    Code:
    sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
    Sudo because the package manager was running as root, rm means remove and the rest is a simple copy&past of the error.
    Please be aware the system can set two separate locks, each in a different place. (/var/lib/apt/lists/lock)

    Have a look at this file with Dolphin, right click it and select properties, the second tab will tell you the owner. (should be root)

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      #3
      Thank you for advice.
      I did
      sudo apt-get update
      It ran and was happy.
      So I ran MUON again and it gave me the long list of files to update and get this
      The following pieces of software cannot be verified. WARNING: Installing unverified software represents a security risk, as the presence of unverifiable software can be a sign of tampering. Do you wish to continue?
      So it's at least willing to install again, but with the warnings.

      Next I did
      sudo apt-get upgrade
      as the upgrade want to download over 3G of data - something I don't have available right now.
      It spit out a very long list but I did not grab everything as I don't think there is much usefull info as it list and list packaged to no end!


      jacques@jacques-LenovoLinux:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
      Reading package lists... Done
      Building dependency tree
      Reading state information... Done
      Calculating upgrade... Done
      The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
      dh-apparmor dh-translations guile-1.8-libs intltool iproute
      libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl libidl-common libidl0 liboil0.3 liborbit2
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      linux-image-extra-3.16.0-39-generic linux-sound-base
      phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0 python-scour python-support scilab-doc
      sound-theme-freedesktop
      Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
      The following packages have been kept back:
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      tdb-tools telepathy-haze time toshset transfig ttf-dejavu-core unixodbc
      vcdimager warzone2100-music wodim wpasupplicant x11-apps x11-session-utils
      x11-xfs-utils x11-xkb-utils x11-xserver-utils xauth xcursor-themes
      xdg-user-dirs xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xinit xserver-common zip
      about-distro aptdaemon-data binutils-avr gcc-avr avrdude avr-libc
      arduino-core busybox-static inputattach iproute iputils-arping irqbalance
      kde-touchpad kde-zeroconf kdemultimedia-kio-plugins libapparmor1
      libdlrestrictions1 libevdev2 libgusb2 libjson0 liblastfm1 libpeas-common
      libpeas-1.0-0 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libsbc1 libwebp5 libwebpmux1 libxdo3
      ocl-icd-libopencl1 openttd-opengfx openttd-openmsx os-prober p11-kit socat
      xdotool
      Install these packages without verification? [y/N]

      Last edited by Bergie5737; Sep 19, 2015, 10:29 AM. Reason: Quoted to many lines

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        #4
        Not sudo apt-get upgrade -- that isn't what you were instructed. Run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. There is a big difference in what the two commands do with your system.
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          #5
          Also, post the error you'll see about authentication, involving gpg keys, when running apt-get update. Somehow your keys have been lost or corrupted, but the error message will help us get you to fix that.

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          Last edited by claydoh; Sep 19, 2015, 02:47 PM.

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            #6
            3GB is a bit much, that looks like an upgrade to the next version.
            But then, maybe there are this many applications installed and it wasn't upgraded in a long time.

            The difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that the first will not change the version of an application but mainly some security fixes, the latter will give you the most recent version -for this distribution-

            And yes please, post the errors because a trusted repository is what sets Ubuntu apart from some common OS and it needs fixing!

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              #7
              Code:
              945 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 712 not upgraded.
              Need to get 735 MB of archives.
              After this operation, 177 MB of additional disk space will be used..
              Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
              735MB of archives ,,,,less than 1 GB

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                #8
                You haven't added an untrusted ppa have you?
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                  #9
                  Apologies for dragging an old post out, but I had to ensure that my system stay stable during my final design project. (Long story about that, but now I can risk a bit of trouble.)
                  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade show this:
                  openttd-openmsx os-prober python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets python-aptdaemon python-dirspec usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data xdotool
                  Install these packages without verification? [y/N] n
                  E: Some packages could not be authenticated
                  Of course the list of software is much longer.

                  I don't know about ppa as elijathegold suggest. I added only google earth and Megasync in the past as extra repo's. It's now removed just in case.

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                    #10
                    Apologies for dragging an old post out, but I had to ensure that my system stay stable during my final design project. (Long story about that, but now I can risk a bit of trouble.)
                    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade show this:
                    openttd-openmsx os-prober python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets python-aptdaemon python-dirspec usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data xdotool
                    Install these packages without verification? [y/N] n
                    E: Some packages could not be authenticated
                    Of course the list of software is much longer.

                    I don't know about ppa as elijathegold suggest. I added only google earth and Megasync in the past as extra repo's. It's now removed just in case.

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                      #11
                      Quick update.
                      I have used a post form I can't recall where and used an "Ubuntu source generator" updated my repositories and imported the security keys, and right now as of typing here, its seems to download everything without "verification" complaints.

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