Dismal windows 7 perofrmance as guest

[vinnywright]

OK her we go



like I said .........a bit lower than yours ,,,,,,,but on your box it may be better .

I'm using

virt-manager/trusty,now 0.9.5-1ubuntu3 all [installed]
  desktop application for managing virtual machines

but have QtEmu and AQEMU installed as well ,, but thay do not work as well or at all (I need to play with them some more).

you may as well check it out , it only depends on a few gtk things ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

vinny@vinnys-HP-G62:~$ apt show virt-manager
Package: virt-manager
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 3,342 kB
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Debian Libvirt Maintainers <pkg-libvirt-
Version: 0.9.5-1ubuntu3
Depends: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2), python:any (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2), python-gtk2, python-glade2, python-gnome2, python-dbus, python-urlgrabber, python-vte, librsvg2-common, python-libvirt (>= 0.7.1), virtinst (>= 0.600.4), python-gtk-vnc (>= 0.3.8), python-appindicator
Recommends: libvirt-bin (>= 0.4.6), gnome-icon-theme
Suggests: virt-viewer, ssh-askpass, gnome-keyring, python-gnomekeyring, python-guestfs, python-spice-client-gtk
Download-Size: 280 kB
Homepage: http://virt-manager.et.redhat.com/
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu
Supported: 5y
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
Description: desktop application for managing virtual machines
 It presents a summary view of running domains and their live performance &
 resource utilization statistics. A detailed view presents graphs showing
 performance & utilization over time. Ultimately it will allow creation of new
 domains, and configuration & adjustment of a domain's resource allocation &
 virtual hardware.  Finally an embedded VNC client viewer presents a full
 graphical console to the guest domain.
 .
 NOTE: the GUI is still considered experimental.

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AQEMU ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

vinny@vinnys-HP-G62:~$ apt show aqemu
Package: aqemu
Priority: optional
Section: universe/x11
Installed-Size: 4,406 kB
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Ignace Mouzannar <mouzannar@gmail.com>
Version: 0.8.2-2
Depends: qemu, libc6 (>= 2.14), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-test (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.8.0), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libvncserver0
Recommends: qemu-kvm
Download-Size: 1,770 kB
Homepage: http://aqemu.sourceforge.net/
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
Description: Qt4 front-end for QEMU and KVM
 aqemu is a Qt4 graphical interface used to manage QEMU and KVM virtual
 machines. It has a user-friendly interface and allows one to set up the
 majority of QEMU and KVM options.

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vinny@vinnys-HP-G62:~$ apt show qtemu
Package: qtemu
Priority: optional
Section: universe/x11
Installed-Size: 1,783 kB
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team <pkg-kde-extras@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Version: 2.0~alpha1-1ubuntu5
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-svg (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtwebkit4 (>= 2.1.0~2011week13), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libvncserver0, qemu
Suggests: sudo, iproute, net-tools, bridge-utils, uml-utilities
Download-Size: 929 kB
Homepage: http://qtemu.org
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Origin: Ubuntu
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
Description: graphical user interface for QEMU
 QtEmu is a graphical user interface for QEMU written in Qt4. It has the
 ability to run virtual operating systems on native systems. This way you can
 easily test a new operating system or try a Live CD on your system without any
 troubles and dangers.

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seam to be all QT maby one of them will work for you ,,,,,,,,,,I was installing and trying this and that and may not have tested them thoroughly

VINNY

[vinnywright]

well it will not be as good as yours ,,,,,,,,,,mine has 2GB RAM of the 4 in the box and 1 CPU using VMVGA on my intel corei3 integrated graphics ................but right after I run to the store I will post that screen shot

VINNY

[anika200]

@vinny I would be interested to see the windows experience index from the KVM. I would like to use the native solution if it compares to VB.

Of course mine looks bad because I do not allow 3D but the rest is good and I am happy with performance so far.


The Vbox has 7GB of the 16GB ram in this box with a nvidia card.

[life0riley]

Vinny, KVM looks interesting. I plan to try that some time in the future on a new box. I know a lot has been posted about it here, and I plan to use it a guide. My host is getting a little dated. It's a dual core with only 6GB of RAM and with 3GB of that allocated to the Windows 7 guest. My host is consuming about 80% of its RAM to run the Windows 7 guest, but I don't really see a performance hit.

A lot of good information is posted in this thread.

... Windows experience in vm has video at 1. It is 4.3 in straight windows. I was hoping to get at least half (2.1) ...

For what its worth, I was able to achieve this on my guest.

My Windows 7 experience was a 1.0 without 2D video, and 3D acceleration.

[vinnywright]

I get prity good performance out of my win7 KVM ..............new install doing win-updates,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




geting ready to respond to this thread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,





operation is pritty seamless the mouse can go to the KVM and out to the Kubuntu desktop without having to click something to regane control of it and the keyboard as well whatever has focus has the keyboard.

VINNY

EDIT: OK one more showing full screen ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[life0riley]

Enable 3D acceleration. It will allow you to increase the video memory to 256MB
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Thanks. This did allow me to increase the video memory to 256MB.

In addition to this I increased the System Base Memory from 2GB to 3GB.
I also reinstalled the guest additions using this for a guide.
How To Enable Windows 7 Aero Effects Inside VirtualBox

Performance is better and I also have Windows 7 Aero Effects! I have sound too.

[dtr]

How did you get video set to 256MB? 128MB is the max I see.


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Enable 3D acceleration. It will allow you to increase the video memory to 256MB

[MoonRise]

All and all most things in my WIn7 Guest works great. After many VM reboots of Win7 I can't quite figure out the sound issue. Seems to be a Win7 issue as my test Win8 seems happy sound wise. Odd. Oh well, as I said I only use my Win7 to support my works IE reliant stuff anyway and sound is of no importance.

[life0riley]

I installed the guest additions because the Win7 VBox guest defaulted to a low screen resolution. I also need USB and Shared Folder support.


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[MoonRise]

I'm playing around with my VM Win7 now to check on sound issue. Just for kicks!

[life0riley]

Hmm... I have guest additions installed and they installed without issue. I plan to go 64 bit in the future, but my host needs a little upgrade like some more RAM. I'll have to monkey around with my Win7 VBox guest when I get home.


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[MoonRise]

Host 64bit. Windows7 Guest is 32bit. Basic Theme as I've never tried installing the Guest Additions that would allow the "fancy" stuff with Windows 7. Tried that once which has to be in safe mode and it was at the time that function had that issue of not being able to properly write a particular file. Can't remember right off what that was but I've stayed away from it as I have no real use for it. Maybe that is the difference? I've also had slight sound issues but that is of no bother to me as I use it only for non-Audio functions. But still, it responds quick and functions great here.

[life0riley]

My host is precise 32 bit and guest is Win7 32 bit. Is your host 64 bit? What are your system settings in VBox?

My Win7 guest defaults to a Windows 7 Basic theme. I wonder if there are any performance options in Win7 to make it run lighter. WinXP ran like a champ on my same host.


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[MoonRise]

I've always had that. See below.

[life0riley]

I use VBox with WIN7. I don't seem to have issues. What issues exactly? I have 4 GB RAM set for it with video set at 256MB. Also 1 Processor. Now, I can't play any games. I've never been able to do that with any VM.

How did you get video set to 256MB? 128MB is the max I see.


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