Discover update fails for apt related files - says there is no script in the ....

[vinnywright]

And it is already reported
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411821
AppimageLauncher is a cool project, btw, that adds interesting features specifically for simple management of appimages, right from the item's menu entry.

+1 , Agreed

VINNY

[claydoh]

And it is already reported
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411821
AppimageLauncher is a cool project, btw, that adds interesting features specifically for simple management of appimages, right from the item's menu entry.

[vinnywright]

I did not get an error either, as I have the package as well, but it was pulled in from something else, so anyone using Virtualbox, have installed build-essential, or have Nvidia drivers (dkms) among other things would already have it. I have the first two.

I have all 3 .

it seams to be a nice addition to our tool set , it gives right click context menu item to dolphin (but it is first choice for appimage so a click launches it ) on clicking an appimage a window opens to give you a choice to "run once" or intigrate into your system with a launcher and moving the appimage to ~/ Applications .

nice

VINNY

EDIT: Oops Virtualbox is on a different install , this one uses "virt-manager"

[claydoh]

I got that "AppimageLauncher" a day or 2 ago , and an update to it today , never got an error ?

but I did already have "dpkg-dev" ,,,,,,so

VINNY

I did not get an error either, as I have the package as well, but it was pulled in from something else, so anyone using Virtualbox (dkms), have installed build-essential, or have Nvidia drivers (dkms, again) among other things would already have it. I have the first two.

[vinnywright]

I got that "AppimageLauncher" a day or 2 ago , and an update to it today , never got an error ?

but I did already have "dpkg-dev" ,,,,,,so

VINNY

[Don B. Cilly]

Neon even have an alias for the 'apt-get upgrade' command that gives a big warning instead of running.

True, that

~$ sudo apt upgrade
On KDE neon you should use `pkcon update` to install updates.
If you absolutely must use apt you do have to use dist-upgrade or full-upgrade in place of the upgrade command.
https://neon.kde.org/faq#command-to-update
Abort.

sudo apt-get upgrade does the same.
I just never tried it.

But then, my alias doesn't use that - and it works very well for me - so I guess it's OK, right?

[EDIT] I tried pkcon update. I like sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade better. :·)

[claydoh]

The 'problem' that you experienced is most likely due to the process that Discover uses when upgrading installed packages. Discover uses 'apt upgrade' and not 'apt full-upgrade'. The difference between 'upgrade' and 'full-upgrade' is in how apt handles dependencies.

From apt manpage:


For me (and others here in KFN) it's why I don't use Discover to 'maintain' my system. ALL my system maintenance is done from the CLI.

This is incorrect, at least from my testing before deciding to use it as my main updating method on both Kubuntu and Neon. While I do use apt on Kubuntu sometimes, that is usually because I have ssh'd into it for other purposes. I don't think I have used apt to update my laptop in 2019 tbh.
Neon even have an alias for the 'apt-get upgrade' command that gives a big warning instead of running.

The error as shown on the KDE forum is a Neon specific bug in AppimageLauncher's packaging, not due to anything in packagekit(Discover). Using apt, or Muon, or synaptic would give the same error.

This thread probably should be in the Neon section anyway, as this has zero to do with 18.04, as Kubuntu don't ship AppimageLauncher, at least not at the moment, and not in 18.04

Moving it....

[Qqmike]

pwrcul, glad you got it. Who knows what gremlins get in to cause these occasional hang-ups. Fyi, I just did the exact same upgrade you posted in your graphic, in Discover, and it went about as fast as I could type my PW. No issues. This time. Snowhog's advice is Post #2 is one to keep handy, too.

[Don B. Cilly]

Actually, IMHO, the easiest way is to make an alias for them.

[Snowhog]

Run afoul? Nope. Confused by users? Possibly.

From the CLI:

sudo apt update (updates the package caches for the repositories being used)
sudo apt full-upgrade (to intelligently upgrade installed packages on your system)

[pwrcul]

Thanks.
What commands do you use in the CLI?
I have seen previously, I believe, that often apt and apt-get run afoul of some restrictions in the KDE world.

[Snowhog]

The 'problem' that you experienced is most likely due to the process that Discover uses when upgrading installed packages. Discover uses 'apt upgrade' and not 'apt full-upgrade'. The difference between 'upgrade' and 'full-upgrade' is in how apt handles dependencies.

From apt manpage:

upgrade (apt-get(8))

upgrade is used to install available upgrades of all packages currently installed on
the system from the sources configured via sources.list(5). New packages will be
installed if required to satisfy dependencies, but existing packages will never be
removed. If an upgrade for a package requires the remove of an installed package the
upgrade for this package isn't performed.

full-upgrade (apt-get(8))

full-upgrade performs the function of upgrade but will remove currently installed
packages if this is needed to upgrade the system as a whole.

For me (and others here in KFN) it's why I don't use Discover to 'maintain' my system. ALL my system maintenance is done from the CLI.

[pwrcul]

Solved

Thanks, Snowhog, but I did the same step others did on the forum.kde.org site as here:
https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?...scover#p422083

That is I ran
sudo apt install dpkg-dev

Then went back to Discover and it worked completing the install with no errors
.
It seems to be a short term problem

For me it seems to be solved.

[Snowhog]

Close out of Discover. Open konsole. Type: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade

Does the upgrading report any errors?

[pwrcul]

This Discover issue is a head scratcher, but I just need something reliable to install programs
I entered my password for Update all in Disover for 6 files. See attached.
I get an error message that briefly appears in the lower left and the same files remain
Message says "Package failed to install. Error while installing package. There is no script in the new version of the package - giving up"
It does not say which package. All files remain.

It looks like there is no way to install software.