Be Wily and Enjoy the Progress of Kubuntu 15.10

[NoWorries]

I guess you are talking about application menu called Kicker

No, I am not. I am talking about having applications listed in an empty panel that are quickly invoked with a single click rather than going through "K" to ferret out the application. I get a different listing when I right mouse click to what you showed in the example of Kicker. What I get is:

You can report a bug for the feature you want
https://bugs.kde.org/describecompone...ct=plasmashell

I believe you that you were able to do that.

Yes I will try to jump through all the hoops to report this bug.

I just gave you an alternative way to get similar results. Of course to achieve the visual and functional effect you want you should use Icons-only Task Manager.

This sounds like a complicated way to achieve this. What I did was install the widget for the default "K" and use that to drag the applications that I want into the empty panel.

[gnomek]

I guess you are talking about application menu called Kicker

You can report a bug for the feature you want
https://bugs.kde.org/describecompone...ct=plasmashell

I believe you that you were able to do that.

I just gave you an alternative way to get similar results. Of course to achieve the visual and functional effect you want you should use Icons-only Task Manager.

[NoWorries]

Sorry to say that what you suggest fails to work for me. My empty panel on the left side of my desktop, which has applications in it, looks like this.



I can assure you that the entries on this were originally placed there by firstly left mouse clicking on the "K" followed by selecting an application such as "Dolphin" with the left mouse key held down, and then dragging it to the above panel. When doing this, the Widgets have to be unlocked.

As I stated in my previous post, this approach no longer works with the "K" for cascading popups but it does work for the standard "K".

[gnomek]

I think there is no such option. But if you run an application you can pin it to panel (right mouse click on panel when an application is running and use option show an activator when not running).

[NoWorries]

I am starting to wonder if I am getting too old fashioned as I like to use a Launcher with cascaded popup menus. I tried to use this launcher to add an application to an empty panel which stores my frequently used applications. This launcher failed to cooperate. The only way I could do it was to add the default launcher which allowed me to add the application to the empty panel.

Does anyone else, who uses the cascaded menu have this problem, or am I the only one who uses this approach now?

[claydoh]

This is what mine looks like, a fresh install. Note the differences - you have 2 user config sections

I would guess you may have hit an upgrade bug, perhaps?

[gnomek]

I don't see this in my Wily install - I don't even have a "password and user account" section - it is 'Account Details". and changing passwords works just fine - it does not use or need kdepasswd.

Yestarday I tried to install qtcurve package


but today I first installed kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 and then other packages successfully.


The new version of Muon Discover indeed has more functionality than it was in KDE 4 but still there is no option for locking the package version (prevent upgrading).

And it is buggy:


It didn't show the details so I don't know what went wrong.

[NoWorries]

Today I tested Wily and I noticed:

1. In system settings → Password and user account → Change password option shows error: "the internal program "kdepasswd" could not be found." It needs to be installed manually. I guess it should be installed by default as dependency.

Claydoh has already provided an excellent reply to your problems.

I am wondering how you installed Wily. If you did a clean install with nothing left from previous versions, you shouldn't have problems. Otherwise, if you have separate root and home partitions and your installation had the home partition from a previous version, the hidden files from the previous version could give you problems. I have fallen foul of problems with this approach in that some of the parameters in the hidden files can cause problems. I am wondering if your system settings are invoked by systemsettings5?

[claydoh]

Today I tested Wily and I noticed:

1. In system settings → Password and user account → Change password option shows error: "the internal program "kdepasswd" could not be found." It needs to be installed manually. I guess it should be installed by default as dependency.

I don't see this in my Wily install - I don't even have a "password and user account" section - it is 'Account Details". and changing passwords works just fine - it does not use or need kdepasswd.
However, if you have installed kuser, you would think would pull in if that is what it needs to manage passwords, so it could be a packaging bug in kuser that needs reporting.

2. Muon package manager is not installed by default. Hmmm, I can install it myself, no problem, but I think it would be better if it was available in default set of programs that come with installation. More advanced users need it anyway.

Mion Discover has been the default package manager, with Muon Package manager not installed by default, for a number of releases now. One tool for each job is a goal for the distro (as is striving to keep the iso image to a certain size), and Discover covers more people's needs more of the time over the advanced package manager.

3. I noticed that there is a trend to make Kubuntu simple by replacing old good full-featured apps with simple one, for example compare kuser with new Plasma 5 user manager options or lightdm with kdm - lightdm can't autologin after logout (only after system restart). But it can become not simple but simplistic.

We are 'advanced users' here. Don't you think that the old kuser as the main way for The Average User to add users or change their passwords is completely confusing
Seriously, though, there is no "trend", just a couple of things overall, and many if the changes over the years have had reasons other than simplicity as one of the reasons fo switch - kdm is old and not maintained and harder to support, for example. the "new" user-manager system settings module has actually been used since Raring 13.04, and has the same layout and (lack of advanced) features.

4. qtcurve is not installable - very bad, I hope it just wasn't packed yet for Wily and not abandoned. In my opinion qcture gives a lot more than breeze (at least so far).

kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 installed just fine for me....

[LinkBot]

2. Muon package manager is not installed by default...

- Thread: Muon[s] future ?

3. ...kuser with new Plasma 5 user manager options or lightdm with kdm...

- Thread: User Management

- SDDM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple...isplay_Manager

4. qtcurve is not installable...

- qtcurve cannot be installed due to missing dependency libkdecorations4abi2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...e/+bug/1452218
wily qtcurve: http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/qtcurve

[gnomek]

Today I tested Wily and I noticed:

1. In system settings → Password and user account → Change password option shows error: "the internal program "kdepasswd" could not be found." It needs to be installed manually. I guess it should be installed by default as dependency.

2. Muon package manager is not installed by default. Hmmm, I can install it myself, no problem, but I think it would be better if it was available in default set of programs that come with installation. More advanced users need it anyway.

3. I noticed that there is a trend to make Kubuntu simple by replacing old good full-featured apps with simple one, for example compare kuser with new Plasma 5 user manager options or lightdm with kdm - lightdm can't autologin after logout (only after system restart). But it can become not simple but simplistic.

4. qtcurve is not installable - very bad, I hope it just wasn't packed yet for Wily and not abandoned. In my opinion qcture gives a lot more than breeze (at least so far).

[ronw]

It's trivial, but I'm glad to see a readable way to display the date and time in the panel.

[NoWorries]

I have reason to celebrate the progress of Wily. Being Monday morning in Australia and Sunday evening in the USA, I just decided to see if there were any updates and to my surprise there was a truckload of them. I am not sure if this was done on Sunday, but the updates included Plasma updates. To keep tabs on progress, I record the KinfoCenter screen shot. On the 23 July, it showed

After this mornings updates, 17th August, a comparison with the July one shows the progress.


With the Plasma update, I get the impression that it is slightly faster. My main measure of performance is the task bar which is now written correctly on startup. Before, the System Tray would firstly be written on the left side and then migrate to the right side soon after.

My HPLIP Status still does not find any System Tray.

Currently, sddm seems to be the main application that is using a large percentage of resources on this low powered PC. That is 69% for:

/usr/bin/X :0 -auth /var/run/sddm/:0 -nolisten tcp -background none -noreset vt7

[xennex81]

I am so happy not to be using linux at this point, that I'm almost about to start using linux again. I guess Linux is just a myth and my happiness is unwarranted.

Currently just orchestrating the Events of a debian VPS.

[NoWorries]

Today there were Network Manager updates and the speed increased. Now I get the following result

Fetched 21.3 MB in 5min 13s (67.9 kB/s)

which is better than 21minutes.

I have been using the wireless modem on this computer for all the above results. So I decided to use a TP-Link modem that has a USB connection. When I use this modem I get the following speed improvement

Fetched 21.3 MB in 26s (816 kB/s)

This is definitely approaching the speed of light!!!!

It now looks like the combination of the Network Manager updates and using the external modem solved the problem. I will do a few more checks tomorrow to confirm these results before I decide what WiFi modem to stop being connected.

Thanks claydoh for giving me the motivation to find a solution to this problem that has been plaguing me for some time now.