I have a confession to make...

[tek_heretik]

As much as people bad mouth Ubuntu, I say Ubuntu does good things for Linux and the open source world in general (albeit indirectly). Also, being part of the Ubuntu community (even through subsidiaries like Kubuntu) confers a good benefit on the user (as opposed to just being a Linux user). Hopefully this will continue to be true even after X-MIR/MIR...

But, in the event that things go sideways, I'd have to say Sabayon KDE (just can't manage to properly customize driver installation on a vanilla Gentoo installation... many failed attempts --> either unbootable or bootable with no internet connection), Debian KDE (would have to to Unstable or something... I played the PPA game in Debian before. That's what made me switch to Ubuntu many many years ago).

I have to agree, most Ubuntu based distros feel and look more polished, whereas Debian still feels like band-aids slapped on a bee swarm victim, lol, so it's either (with Debian) ancient and stable or roll the dice current.

[texaswriter]

As much as people bad mouth Ubuntu, I say Ubuntu does good things for Linux and the open source world in general (albeit indirectly). Also, being part of the Ubuntu community (even through subsidiaries like Kubuntu) confers a good benefit on the user (as opposed to just being a Linux user). Hopefully this will continue to be true even after X-MIR/MIR...

But, in the event that things go sideways, I'd have to say Sabayon KDE (just can't manage to properly customize driver installation on a vanilla Gentoo installation... many failed attempts --> either unbootable or bootable with no internet connection), Debian KDE (would have to to Unstable or something... I played the PPA game in Debian before. That's what made me switch to Ubuntu many many years ago).

[tek_heretik]

Let us pray.

Hail Kubuntu, full of Plasma,
I seek Unity only with thee.
Sophisticated art thou amongst the dumbed-down,
and heat is the fruit of thy disk-muncher,
Akonadi.
Kooky kbuildsycoca4, master of caches,
beautify for us our desktops,
now and at the apt-get of our dist-upgrade.
Kmen.


And now, let us drink.

Amen and thanks for the drink, lol.

[tek_heretik]

Our of interest, what is the difference between kubuntu and mint kde? Do the mint kde team compile their own kde packages, or is it really just kubuntu with different artwork and more non-free stuff installed by default?

You answered your own question.

[bendy]

Our of interest, what is the difference between kubuntu and mint kde? Do the mint kde team compile their own kde packages, or is it really just kubuntu with different artwork and more non-free stuff installed by default?

[SteveRiley]

For this mortal sin you must seek absolution from Father Steve Riley!
His usual prescription is to say three "Hail Kubuntu";s

Let us pray.

Hail Kubuntu, full of Plasma,
I seek Unity only with thee.
Sophisticated art thou amongst the dumbed-down,
and heat is the fruit of thy disk-muncher,
Akonadi.
Kooky kbuildsycoca4, master of caches,
beautify for us our desktops,
now and at the apt-get of our dist-upgrade.
Kmen.

I think that's 1 gin tonic !!

And now, let us drink.

[tek_heretik]

I think you mean "nobody does KDE like Kubuntu".

Well...no...not really, yes, Kubuntu is KDE laced on top of Ubuntu, but Mint (KDE version), Netrunner, etc are based on Kubuntu, they just have custom tweaks and scripts, etc, and oh, lots of self-serving branding, no shortage of that. If I really had the time and gumption, I could strip all the Kubuntu branding and make a Tekbuntu, lol.

Edit: I actually ran Netrunner for a short while a few years ago, the forum was terrible and the support was worse, but hey, the author has a distro, whereas I don't, hmmph, so ya have to give credit where it's due.

[tek_heretik]

My suggestion, and what I do (when I do it), is to install without selecting the third part and without selecting to update during install. This gives you a very vanilla install, which (most) always 'just works'. Then, afterwards, do your tweaking.

The restricted/third party apps, etc are not the problem, never is, it's the updates, I've never heard of a codec, etc, break an install. Yes, it is best to leave the updates until after it's on the HDD(s)/SDD(s). As a matter of fact, the 12.04 install disk did the same thing, I didn't expect 12.04.2 to do the same, hmmm.

[tek_heretik]

Kubuntu is the only so so far that just works. Good for me 1) because I'm use to how Debian related installs work

Ditto.

[Snowhog]

There's a certain irony that an attempt to save time and effort by adding sources at install time can end up costing you time and effort instead.

A 'shortcut' doesn't always save you time.

[HalationEffect]

My suggestion, and what I do (when I do it), is to install without selecting the third part and without selecting to update during install. This gives you a very vanilla install, which (most) always 'just works'. Then, afterwards, do your tweaking.

There's a certain irony that an attempt to save time and effort by adding sources at install time can end up costing you time and effort instead.

[Snowhog]

I flirted with Mint 13 (KDE, LTS) for about 5 minutes, meh, nobody does Kubuntu like Kubuntu. I do have one tiny complaint, I downloaded the Kubuntu 12.04.2 LTS 'CD' and checked both third party and updates during the install, big mistake, the updates lagged the poop out of my machine, even after the reboot, the lag was terrible, so I re-installed, clicking only third party, then did the updates after the install and everything was fine. My guess is, it's the nVidia driver in conflict with the kernel being in 'limbo' during the updating, I am no expert of course, just a guess.

My suggestion, and what I do (when I do it), is to install without selecting the third part and without selecting to update during install. This gives you a very vanilla install, which (most) always 'just works'. Then, afterwards, do your tweaking.

[verndog]

I flirted with Mint 13 (KDE, LTS) for about 5 minutes, meh, nobody does Kubuntu like Kubuntu. ...:

I think you mean "nobody does KDE like Kubuntu". Anyway, I tried Mind KDE and failed the worse. Fedora was very good, but I couldn't depend on having a stable desktop. Kubuntu is the only one so far that just works. Good for me 1) because I'm use to how Debian related installs work, 2) I have Ubuntu already installed, and have no problem keeping both up to date. Ubuntu is Precise and I'm testing both Ubuntu and Kubuntu Saucy installs.

[tek_heretik]

You guys are funny, thanks for the laugh!

[vinnywright]

the consumption of one can of Dr. Pepper,

I think that's 1 gin tonic !!

VINNY