My HP Pavillion Entertainment PC laptop seems to be missing something in this version of the distro

[steve7233]

I decided to download Kubuntu 24.04.2 LTS and try it. Hopefully, they get 25.04 working properly with the llvmpipe display driver from Intel.

[steve7233]

I think the problem might be similar to this bug: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/10901, but the GPU is llvmpipe instead of VMware or VirtualBox. Maybe a GTK issue?

[steve7233]

Does this help any?
steve7233@steven-pc:~$ sudo dpkg -l | grep -E '^ii' | awk '{first = $1; $1 = ""; print}' | sed 's/^ //g' | gre
p -E --color=never '^linux-'
[sudo] password for steve7233:
linux-base 4.10.1ubuntu2 all Linux image base package
linux-firmware 20250317.git1d4c88ee-0ubuntu1 amd64 Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
linux-generic 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers
linux-headers-6.14.0-15 6.14.0-15.15 all Header files related to Linux kernel version 6.14.0
linux-headers-6.14.0-15-generic 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Linux kernel headers for version 6.14.0
linux-headers-generic 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Generic Linux kernel headers
linux-image-6.14.0-15-generic 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Signed kernel image generic
linux-image-generic 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Generic Linux kernel image
linux-libc-dev:amd64 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Linux Kernel Headers for development
linux-modules-6.14.0-15-generic 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Linux kernel extra modules for version 6.14.0
linux-modules-extra-6.14.0-15-generic 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Linux kernel extra modules for version 6.14.0
linux-perf 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Performance analysis tools for Linux
linux-sound-base 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu8 all base package for ALSA and OSS sound systems
linux-sysctl-defaults 4.10.1ubuntu2 all default sysctl configuration for Linux
linux-tools-6.14.0-15 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Linux kernel version specific tools for version 6.14.0-15
linux-tools-6.14.0-15-generic 6.14.0-15.15 amd64 Linux kernel version specific tools for version 6.14.0-15
linux-tools-common 6.14.0-15.15 all Linux kernel version specific tools for version 6.14.0
steve7233@steven-pc:~$

[steve7233]

What does "Grub failed boot detection" mean during the boot?

[steve7233]

This is correct - since Intel graphic use the built-in kernel and mesa drivers, there are no 'additional drivers' to install. This is normal.

I don't know where to begin troubleshooting why the driver modules are not loading or not working on Intel, to be honest.

After reading your response, I thought maybe the HP website. I entered my serial number, and the correct product came up. I clicked on other for support type and got this:

I guess I will have to find another source.

[claydoh]

This is correct - since Intel graphic use the built-in kernel and mesa drivers, there are no 'additional drivers' to install. This is normal.

I don't know where to begin troubleshooting why the driver modules are not loading or not working on Intel, to be honest.

[steve7233]

I ran drivers in system settings, and after the search, it was empty!

Now what?

[claydoh]

No, it is not too old for UEFI, not by a bit
I had an HP desktop from 2008 that used UEFI firmware but by default ran in the "Legacy BIOS" mode, which is an emulation of the old BIOS style running on the UEFI firmware.
You might try and find the BIOS update from HP and install it yourself, or disable firmware options in Discover's settings
But good luck finding this, as the 1030us is not supported by HP, so you won't find downloads from them.
Which makes it even stranger that they (HP) are pushing something out now, but of course they possibly did so many years ago, and your new-ish (I assume) Linux install is just now checking for new firmware? I dunno. On such an old machine, I'd disable the firmware updater myself if I wasn't going to bother moving over to UEFI.

could this be the reason the Mesa/Intel driver doesn't seem to be working?

No, this is 100% unrelated. I am 85% positive about that, though.

if you do find it is a UEFI system set to run a Legacy BIOS, it may only be worth switching if you really want to, or will do a fresh install. Probably not worth the effort, generally speaking.

[steve7233]

When I look under firmware security in Info Center I get this:
Idle…: 0%WARNING: UEFI ESP partition not detected or configuredSee https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/wiki/PluginFlag:esp-not-found for more information.WARNING: UEFI firmware can not be updated in legacy BIOS modeSee https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/wiki/PluginFlag:legacy-bios for more information.Host Security ID: HSI:0! (v2.0.7)
Since this computer is so old, I think UEFI probably doesn't exist in any form, so why is it looking for any UEFI, and could this be the reason the Mesa/Intel driver doesn't seem to be working?

[steve7233]

No. It became EOL July last year.

I meant 24.10

[Snowhog]

23.10 becomes EOL in July of this year

No. It became EOL July last year.

[steve7233]

You should know that. 23.10 is the latest EOL release.

Yes, but I did some checking, and 23.10 becomes EOL in July of this year, so there's no point in that one. It looks like 24.04 is the only option.

[Snowhog]

How far back can I try Kubuntu versions before getting too close to the EOL versions?

You should know that. 23.10 is the latest EOL release.

[steve7233]

How far back can I try Kubuntu versions before getting too close to the EOL versions?

[steve7233]

Tried X11 3d rendering seems a tad better, but desktop renders poorly, so possible driver problems in both Wayland and X11.
It might be a 2d problem as well.