[Soapbox] What I Would Change in 25.04

[tenplus1]

These are a few things I would change in the 25.04 Kubuntu before release:

- Disable adaptive sync by default (installer blacks out on Try/Install screen with this active, let users enable if needed).
- Have a very basic Kate setup, enough to recognise it's a text editor for new users and not a programming IDE out of the gate with everything enabled.
- Copying anything to flash-drive, especially huge files results in a long wait with no indication it's finished, maybe a lower dirtybytes value would help.

Have I missed anything ? What do you guys thing ?

[claydoh]

Disable adaptive sync by default (installer blacks out on Try/Install screen with this active, let users enable if needed).

test it and report:
https://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/...8892/testcases

Current ISO
https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/

- Copying anything to flash-drive, especially huge files results in a long wait with no indication it's finished, maybe a lower dirtybytes value would help.

That is a KDE thing, Kubuntu has no control over that. This is along running topic of discussion (MANY years -- KDE 3 days) because of users yanking the stick too early and other somewhat normal causes for data loss on USB sticks. I doubt that things will change much, but I myself on current Plasma releases have not had any issues. Either it takes "forever" to copy and sync, or you have to 'eject' and then wait when you want to remove the stick. I admit I only use faster USB3 stick of known quality/speeds.

In any case, the dirty_bytes configuration is set by Ubuntu, so Kubuntu doesn't change that.

Have a very basic Kate setup

kwrite? That is pretty basic, too basic, though
kate's default seems pretty sparse to me. Though I admit toggling off the text menu bar (ctrl-m) most of the time.
As Kubuntu normally keeps to stock KDE settings, this layout is unlikely to change.
What parts make you think that Kate is a bit too much ootb for these new users?
When kwrite was the default, there arguably were more calls to replace it with Kate.
Imo, kate is a decent medium between Notepad or kate and Notepad++. Most of the fluff is turned off but readily discoverable. Turning off or hiding all the UI elements instead of keeping them out of the way but still there is. \
Just my 0.031 AUD,

[Virginio Miranda]

Its just released and only will be supported for 9 Months.

[claydoh]

I somehow lost track of the release date lol.

[kapustin]

I discovered that the screen saver is defective in Kubuntu 25.04: it does not start in any way and the screen lock (with password) does not work either.

[rec9140]

These are a few things I would change in the 25.04 Kubuntu
Have I missed anything ? What do you guys think [ed:sp] ?

This is like opening 5 Pandoras Boxes at once!

I think theres a lot of things that are not necessarily 25.04 specific, although one is

wayturkey by default! NO THANK YOU! At this point X11 should STILL BE THE DEFAULT and those who wish to experiment can do so... I will save those readying the pitch forks, tar et al. I don't care Margaret. X11 is where I am staying. Full Hard Stop. I am not interested in this debate, discussion. So this is a HARD RED LINE for me. So you can just move on, I am not interested. I've had systemd, puslewire, and other crud shoved down my throat. I ain't interested (I told you Pandoras box! )

Why? I will give one example... NETWORK. I use NETWORKED X11 extensively from X11 over SSH, to XDMCP ... and NOPE don't even go there with VNC, etc.. NOPE. I ain't changing whats worked for longer than the developers of this stuff have been alive. Ain't happening. Any replacement of X11 should be a 1:1 replacement aka X12.. Fix the problem(s)! No the "cure" is to kill the patient with this bunch. Nope.
/end rant (this one)

Other things,
REMOVE snap and any and all snap based programs cough firefox cough.. This is one of the first things I do now. You are welcome to push your yet another stupid package system all you want in some other way! Shoving it down my throat ain't it! Can some one at Canoncial move the red light away from this like unity etc. so they move on to something more imporant! Don't like DEB's issues.. FIX THEM! MAKE DEB even better! I don't disagree with DEB having some areas needing addressing, again, killing the patient is not the cure.

Power Management on desktops, should not default to SUSPEND at any time. You can go read the other thread, nope. And you got it I don't hug trees. I have a chain saw for those!

Enabling of any automatic updates of any form! Nope, this another point.. Scream all you want about "security." Yeah... no. Are you going to come clean up the mess from your crap update that trashed my systems, or pay me to do it? Yeah didn't think so. Nope. I and I ALONE DECIDE WHEN AND WHAT UPDATES are done! Period.

Software selection.

I can go back to the early 2000's and this debate. No choice is going to please everyone, but lacking BASIC TOOLS, ie : nslookup on a install! Is well Just silly. (Thats my polite word. ) There are some other similar basic tools... and I am firm believer in more is better. And this goes back to the days of DL'ng a 1GB+ DVD ISO on 128K ISDN. So that "argument" is a fail with me... (Again ,remember Pandora! )

There is a post around here, about "Essential... after install.." This one:
https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/...4-installation

I think there are some great points in there. I don't agree with all of them... but I think there some good ones, and I think one of the most important is not listed in the 7 bullet points, and should be #1. I will let the reader guess on the one it is. Actually there are 2 points I think should be #1 and then 2.. again, the reader can guess #2.

As for kate.. that you listed... I want it full install.. I use to for an IDE, scribles etc.. It should be ready to go..There are changes in the default view of it I don't like, which seem to be correctable, so I will let it slide, but I still think the changes there wrong. Kwrite? Is that thing still around? Who knew!

One of the great things about Linux and KDE is that you can FIX MOST OF this! Trying fixing some of this one some other alleged OS... rhotsa rhuck Rhaggy!

[sam2fish]

I've played with Linux for some time, though I'm not a command-line pro. So I'm new to Kubuntu. I like version 25.04 for the most part. Flatpak and Flathub have been helpful. Installed the new version of Nordvpn which has a graphical front now! My only beef so far is the Application Menu. The items are spaced too far apart. A tighter compact option would be great. The menu gets way too tall on the screen. Haven't found a way to solve it. S2F

[claydoh]

A tighter compact option would be great.

There are a crap ton of third party widget options for menus in addition to the three that6 come by default.



Some of these are manually resizable by dragging from a corner. The stock one doesn't go small enough for my liking here on my Chromebook so I swapped it out, but it can't swap the category panel to the tight like I can on the stock one.


Still not small enough for me but that's ok.

[sam2fish]

There are a crap ton of third party widget options for menus in addition to the three that6 come by default.



Some of these are manually resizable by dragging from a corner. The stock one doesn't go small enough for my liking here on my Chromebook so I swapped it out, but it can't swap the category panel to the tight like I can on the stock one.


Still not small enough for me but that's ok.

Hi, thanks for the input. The Start Next Menu looks interesting seeing I have Start11 menu installed on my mid-tower inside Windows 10. My objective is to run everything I need in Kubuntu so I can say goodbye to Windows for good. My last hurdle is to run my three WiFi cameras on the screen at one time. Then Windows is gone.

Psst... so is there a link or page where I can get the Start Next Menu ?

[claydoh]

Right click on the desktop and enter "Edit Mode", then 'Add or Manage widgets", followed by "Get new".
Search for "menu" or other relevant terms. Once installed, theses will show up as "Alternatives" when you right-click on the Application menu icon on your panel.

[sam2fish]

Hi, thanks for the input. The Start Next Menu looks interesting seeing I have Start11 menu installed on my mid-tower inside Windows 10. My objective is to run everything I need in Kubuntu so I can say goodbye to Windows for good. My last hurdle is to run my three WiFi cameras on the screen at one time. Then Windows is gone.

Psst... so is there a link or page where I can get the Start Next Menu ?

Okay, I tried the Start Next Menu. It's obviously a work in progress. Way too tall with little in the middle.

Wonder if Wine could install Start11 ?