Will we be able to dump snap forever?

[Gromm]

Hello,

I am very happy with this for my Kubuntu 24.04 installation. https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/...et-rid-of-snap
However, I also read lots of messages about further integration of snap into the newer Ubuntu-family versions. This in such a way it might break your system if you remove it.
What will the future look like?

[claydoh]

I also read lots of messages about further integration of snap into the newer Ubuntu-family versions

Can you give some examples? I don't see it, nor does it look like 26.04 has any more snap bits than 24.04, *and* doing a minimal install in recent releases does not include it at all, at the expense of also not having a web browser.

Commentary on the internet, especially on Reddit, among others, has a lot of overblown blowhard windblowing from random haters seeking outrage, exaggeration, and general silliness. Makes it hard sometimes to see the real information.

https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubun...features/31233
Kubuntu's ISO seem to be the same

Any real “integration”, whatever that means, doesn't seem to really be a thing. If it were really bad, then places like Linux Mint would be howling loudly and moving to Debian already.

And one can always move to a different platform worst case. I doubt that will be necessary.

[Gromm]

Can you give some examples? I don't see it, nor does it look like 26.04 has any more snap bits than 24.04, *and* doing a minimal install in recent releases does not include it at all, at the expense of also not having a web browser.

Commentary on the internet, especially on Reddit, among others, has a lot of overblown blowhard windblowing from random haters seeking outrage, exaggeration, and general silliness. Makes it hard sometimes to see the real information.

https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubun...features/31233
Kubuntu's ISO seem to be the same

Any real “integration”, whatever that means, doesn't seem to really be a thing. If it were really bad, then places like Linux Mint would be howling loudly and moving to Debian already.

And one can always move to a different platform worst case. I doubt that will be necessary.

Well, that is an answer isn't it? The reason I ask here is that I want to know how much truth in the "blowhard windblowing" is. Your arguments sounds logical. If it will only be restricted to things like firefox, krita etc, that I can keep on removing snap and I stick to flatpack or the .deb packages.
Example: On the other hand, I also heard things about core-components of the os that might be installed with snap. As I understand you, that might not be the case.

[die.boer]

I'm not a fan of snap and if i install anything i specifically avoid snap or flatpak ,i'll look for the deb version rather.
i've removed preinstalled snaps like firefox ,but there's a few other snaps that i'm scared to remove ,just now something stops working .
so yea ,also interested if one can remove snap completely from kubuntu ?

ps: snap list i have left

bare 1.0 5 latest/stable canonical✓ base
core22 20260225 2411 latest/stable canonical✓ base
gnome-42-2204 0+git.c1d3d69-sdk0+git.015db9a 247 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
gtk-common-themes 0.1-81-g442e511 1535 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
gtk-theme-breeze 1.3 5 latest/stable/… kde✓ -
icon-theme-breeze 1.3 5 latest/stable/… kde✓ -
snapd 2.74.1 26382 latest/stable canonical✓ snapd

[Gromm]

I'm not a fan of snap and if i install anything i specifically avoid snap or flatpak ,i'll look for the deb version rather.
i've removed preinstalled snaps like firefox ,but there's a few other snaps that i'm scared to remove ,just now something stops working .
so yea ,also interested if one can remove snap completely from kubuntu ?

ps: snap list i have left

bare 1.0 5 latest/stable canonical✓ base
core22 20260225 2411 latest/stable canonical✓ base
gnome-42-2204 0+git.c1d3d69-sdk0+git.015db9a 247 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
gtk-common-themes 0.1-81-g442e511 1535 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
gtk-theme-breeze 1.3 5 latest/stable/… kde✓ -
icon-theme-breeze 1.3 5 latest/stable/… kde✓ -
snapd 2.74.1 26382 latest/stable canonical✓ snapd

https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/...et-rid-of-snap Follow these instructions and you should get rid of snap. Proceed at your own risk of course.