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    Can not update firmware and need help figuring out how

    I have been trying to get Ubuntu Core to work in my HP dv6 1030us laptop. First, Kubuntu 25.04 was a definite no-go, then Kubuntu 24.04 was still a no-go. I then tried Mint Linux, which has Ubuntu Core 25.04, and that was also a no-go. I tried Lubuntu 24.04 and that worked somewhat what but was still not very good. Now I am on Xubuntu 24.04, close, but its firmware updater showed that my HD has an update, but it is greyed out. I suspect I would get better performance if I could get it updated. If I look at the laptop's BIOS, there is nothing about any kind of UEFI. Perhaps the updater is expecting something like that and is unable to update the firmware. I could not get to the Xbuntu forums. I tried the link from the Xubuntu website seems to be broken. I tried for several days. Since it is a flavor of Ubuntu and the issue seems to be core Ubuntu, I was hoping the forums of my favorite flavor might be able to help me figure this out.
    Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

    http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

    #2
    sometimes the bios will not show all the features available unless you create an administrative password, so you could try that and see if anything new shows up.

    you could check the manufacturer's website for your model number and see if there is and update to the bios you could install.... same with the HDD manufacturer.

    if they have an installer that only runs on windows you can make a bootable USB with hirens.BOOTCD on it so you can run the .exe files you need to run to make the firmware updates.

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      #3
      HP has retired the model and taken down all the docs and videos, so they probably don't have any BIOS updates for it. It must be seeing some from somewhere a repo or something.Click image for larger version

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      Sorry, it has to be so big. The screenshot program in Xubuntu 24.04 doesn't appear to have the ability to take a screenshot of just the one window, so I had to capture the entire screen. I miss the screenshot program in Kubuntu, but then that might be part of making the Windows manager light enough for old laptops. If I need to make a bootable USB drive for the BIOS then can't I just use the startup disk creator program that Xubuntu 24.04 has. In fact it seems all flavors of Ubuntu now have this program including Kubuntu.
      Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

      http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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        #4
        startup disk creator is a great tool.. just point it at the USB stick and drag a .iso file to it.

        eazy peazy.

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          #5
          Originally posted by skyfishgoo View Post
          startup disk creator is a great tool.. just point it at the USB stick and drag a .iso file to it.

          eazy peazy.
          Yes, I know. That's why I think every Distro in existence should have it or something like it.
          Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

          http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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            #6
            The firmware is for the hard drive, not the PC. There little to no chance it will involve any performance gains whatsoever, fwiw.



            If you want real and significant performance help, get a cheap-er SATA ssd if that is possible/affordable. ~$30USD.
            I know the old beast is sata 2, and not sata3, but the HDD is the slow-spinning 5400rpm one that probably is showing its age.
            If you can get hold of a used ssd from someone cheaply or free, it might be worth testing it to see how it works in comparison
            I'd send one of mine, except the shipping costs from here.

            https://www.amazon.com/512gb-ssd/s?k..._n_feature_key words_six_browse-bin%3A6158683011&dc&ds=v1%3AJqAryqrHNlztS1tZvsedNE s0QzjKYvibAG8DsQYyar0&qid=1748297875&rnid=61458430 11&ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_keywords_six_browse-bin_1

            As for the firmware update, I dunno. Try updating it manually and look for errors:
            https://itsfoss.com/update-firmware-...20is%20running %2C%20check%20if%20there%20are%20any%20firmware%20 updates%20available.
            Ignore everything above the "Once the daemon is running"​ part. Look for errors.

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              #7
              Originally posted by claydoh View Post
              The firmware is for the hard drive, not the PC. There little to no chance it will involve any performance gains whatsoever, fwiw.



              If you want real and significant performance help, get a cheap-er SATA ssd if that is possible/affordable. ~$30USD.
              I know the old beast is sata 2, and not sata3, but the HDD is the slow-spinning 5400rpm one that probably is showing its age.
              If you can get hold of a used ssd from someone cheaply or free, it might be worth testing it to see how it works in comparison
              I'd send one of mine, except the shipping costs from here.

              https://www.amazon.com/512gb-ssd/s?k..._n_feature_key words_six_browse-bin%3A6158683011&dc&ds=v1%3AJqAryqrHNlztS1tZvsedNE s0QzjKYvibAG8DsQYyar0&qid=1748297875&rnid=61458430 11&ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_keywords_six_browse-bin_1

              As for the firmware update, I dunno. Try updating it manually and look for errors:
              https://itsfoss.com/update-firmware-...20is%20running %2C%20check%20if%20there%20are%20any%20firmware%20 updates%20available.
              Ignore everything above the "Once the daemon is running"​ part. Look for errors.
              I have a 120 GB 840 EVO SSD from Samsung, but no interface to use it as it is an internal drive. I am guessing I would need an enclosure with a USB 2 and power connections. The USB 2 would proably cripple it's speed but it would still be faster than 4500 RPM plus no startup delay whenever the computer requests access. I was reading about the technology of HDs online and found this
              Many host computer hardware and software components assume the hard drive is configured around 512-byte sector boundaries.
              Since this would be the old sector size, then this might be why the OS has problems and why the install took about 30 minutes.
              Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

              http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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                #8
                No a SATA SSD has the exact same form factor and connections as a 2.5" laptop drive. Direct replacement.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by claydoh View Post
                  No a SATA SSD has the exact same form factor and connections as a 2.5" laptop drive. Direct replacement.
                  Does this mean I can open the case and replace the drive with the SSD? Considering it's such old HD technology, I suspect it is not going to be that simple. If you look at the firmware updater image in comment #3, it says it's an ATA HD.
                  Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

                  http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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                    #10
                    SATA = Serial ATA.

                    if you have the ssd try it out, it will literally attach and be secured in the exact same manner as the HDD
                    The 2.5" drive spec and SATA II are from approx 2004.

                    https://www.donordrives.com/media/ca...-06-27_103.jpg

                    https://www.newegg.com/fujitsu-320gb...82E16822116096
                    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujits....466117.0.html
                    https://testhdd.com/Fujitsu-Mobile-M...-300-3635.html
                    https://www.donordrives.com/fujitsu-...ard-drive.html


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                      #11
                      Originally posted by claydoh View Post
                      SATA = Serial ATA.

                      if you have the ssd try it out, it will literally attach and be secured in the exact same manner as the HDD
                      The 2.5" drive spec and SATA II are from approx 2004.

                      https://www.donordrives.com/media/ca...-06-27_103.jpg

                      https://www.newegg.com/fujitsu-320gb...82E16822116096
                      https://www.notebookcheck.net/Fujits....466117.0.html
                      https://testhdd.com/Fujitsu-Mobile-M...-300-3635.html
                      https://www.donordrives.com/fujitsu-...ard-drive.html

                      I got the SSDs out of my old desktop that has a bad water cooler here is a picture of the 2 TB one.
                      Sorry but it seems the picture exceeds the forum limit of 2 MB. You might want t to consider changing that. I suspect it's a 4K image size problem. I shut off my notebook and saw there were to parts to get in it. I chose the one that looked about the size of a 2.5" drive. I think I choose the correct one. I took a picture but I can't post due the size like above. I can't figure out how to remove it. I was hoping you could but I didn't know my phones camera would take pictures that exceed this forums size limit.
                      Just to remind users and devs that Ubuntu and its flavors have a long way to go to be as usr friendly as they should be.

                      http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu

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