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    keyboard shortcuts in Wayland impossible at present if ever?

    I was advised to post this in these more general forums - first put into Resolute Racoon Review.

    I am not referring to shortcuts as in links to applications or files/folders.

    I am referring to the issue with Wayland and it's inability to implement a system-wide pasting of completed snippets of text or code to any desktop or activity. Before Kubuntu 24.01 there was a very simple system application to implement this in the system keyboard menu. With the introduction of Wayland, that has been quietly dropped for obvious reasons.

    This has very serious ramifications for many users that are so used to a keyboard shortcut to insert a passage of text, an address, email address or snippet of oft-used code into a document or text.
    The ramifications on the productivity of users so used to this facility is enormous.

    Even in Windows it is a very simple thing to set up.

    This is the primary failing of Wayland and one reason for the massive backlash against it's precipitous introduction. A form of keyboard logging across applications and desktops is required for this to be implemented - the antithesis of the whole philosophy behind Wayland.

    I do not see how it is ever going to be resolved, but if Wayland is to be implemented wholesale across the Linux world we will be driving many workers back into the arms of Microsoft and Apple.

    I sincerely hope this can be overcome in some way. The constant push by Canconical and other developers to prioritise security over function and usefulness is self defeating. Linux is inherently more secure than most other systems, and this constant drive to enhance security over functionality I find absolutely barmy.
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    I'm still not clear in what you are taking about here. I can paste any text anywhere, including saved items using klipper, same as it has been. Nothing changed for me as far as I can recall, and I've been on Wayland for at least three, four years, if not longer.

    ctrl-c, ctrl-v, meta-v for the selection pop out, or via the system tray widget.


    In the current Plasma, you even have "bookmarked" snippets that don't get deleted when you clear klipper's history.

    I make use of this as a main part of my workflow for quite a number of years now


    There is along standing bug/missing feature in klipper where it doesn't paste the snippet automatically when selecting it, you need to still use a paste action. This goes back well before Wayland though.


    Unless I am misunderstanding you ( quite possibly).

    What is this system keyboard menu?
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      claydoh I am obviously not explaining it clearly enough for others to understand.

      I am not talking about copy and paste.

      I am talking about a primary repository of snippets of computer code, addresses, telephone numbers, email addresses and any odd bit of text that can be accessed system-wide across and by all applications and pasted into an application with a simple keystroke sequence, Not a temporary store in a clipboard, a permanent easily accessed pasting with a simple ctrl-alt-whatever for instance.

      The security features of Wayland make this an impossibility.

      They used to be stored in files like khotkeysrc, kglobalshortcutsrc, sometimes stored in " /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/" and "~/.local/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/"

      I hope I have explained things better this time.

      I don't understand how Klipper can help, Klipper is a 3d printing application?
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        #4
        Khotkeys is the missing application. Maybe. And/or keyboard automated tasks, that sort of thing. Khotkeys went away before Wayland as it was unmaintianed, though I am not sure how long ago. It was officially marked deprecated three years ago.

        How were you setting this up, previously, if you can recall? All those config files listed have little to do with the task, on their own, but may be from third party service menus?

        But what you really are looking for is a "text expansion" tool, perhaps.


        Originally posted by barfly View Post
        The security features of Wayland make this an impossibility.
        Nope, not correct
        https://espanso.org/
        https://espanso.org/docs/install/linux/#deb-wayland
        Or maybe

        ydotool and custom kb shortcuts

        and

        https://gitlab.com/cscs/waybinder

        as well as KDE-specific discussion last week here.
        https://discuss.kde.org/t/a-general-...-functionality

        I'd seen mention of using ibus (multilingual text input tools) to do this in Gnome, so I wonder if fcitx (used in Kubuntu and others) can do something similarAsIGoDownAnotherDeepRabbitHole.......
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          try looking at input-remapper

          with that you can save predefined text to a keyboard shortcut like we used to be able to so with custom shortcuts
          some stuff i did: https://github.com/droidgoo

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