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No, those are flatpaks, nothing system-level here. Most here are library sets, needed by the Steam flatpak.Originally posted by GreyGeek View Post
Think of these as being similar to the 75+ library dependency packages a standard Steam installed from a deb or via apt would pull in. But they are specific to flatpaks so are quite safe to remove.Leave a comment:
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FYI: I used this guide to remove snap and applied the same technique to flatpak.
I was wrong. Removing flatpak was as easy as removing snap.
I just continued to use the command "flatpak remove xxxxx". One of those xxxx gave me an option to remove all the remaining packages and I chose that option. Now, "snap list" and "flatpak list" and then I uninstalled them. Now my boot time to desktop is 5.6 seconds.
I was worried that because Nvidia was listed as a flatpak installed package I would lose it when I removed flatpak. That turned out not to be the case. Rebooting, I was presented with my Nvidia 390.144 powered desktop.
Sweet!
Steam is gone, but I can reinstall it without using snap or flatpak.
Systemd-analyze gives me the FASTEST boot to graphical target that I have ever had!
My system is very "snappy" as well!:~$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 3.441s (kernel) + 2.158s (userspace) = 5.600s
graphical.target reached after 2.149s in userspace
jerry@jerry-aspirev3771:~$ systemd-analyze blame
1.436s smartmontools.service
978ms rsyslog.service
825ms udisks2.service
747ms dev-sda1.device
Last edited by GreyGeek; Sep 22, 2021, 05:35 PM.Leave a comment:
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This article explains what they are all about and how to clean them https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/0...-runtimes.htmlOriginally posted by GreyGeek View PostLeave a comment:
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@ GreyGeek & acheron
Aren't Firefox updates always a little behind schedule on Kubuntu like by at least a couple of days to optimize it for KDE Plasma?Leave a comment:
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Getting rid of snap in KDE Neon 5.22.5 was easy. Removing flatpak is not:
After a few "flatpak remove xxxx" I was left with:Code:[FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454ff][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ flatpak list [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]Name Application ID Version Branch Installation[/B][/COLOR] Steam com.valvesoftware.Steam 1.0.0.71 stable system Freedesktop Platform org.freedesktop.Platform 21.08.2 21.08 system i386 org.freedesktop.Platform.Compat.i386 21.08 system Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 21.1.7 20.08 system Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 21.2.1 21.08 system nvidia-390-144 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-390-144 1.4 system default org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.default 21.08 system nvidia-390-144 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-390-144 1.4 system Intel org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 20.08 system Intel org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 21.08 system openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.0 system Freedesktop SDK org.freedesktop.Sdk 20.08.15 20.08 system GNOME Application Platform version 40 org.gnome.Platform 40 system Breeze Gtk theme org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Breeze 3.22 system Physics org.sugarlabs.Physics 35.1 stable system [/FONT]
and I don't think removing any of those would leave a workable system. I'm going to give it a go, but I know that I will lose my nvidia install. IMO, flatpak is more insidous that snap. In my old Kubuntu 20.04 install I used 15 appimages. More than likely I will end up on Mint KDE.Code:[FONT=monospace][COLOR=#5454ff][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ flatpak list [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]Name Application ID Version Branch Installation[/B][/COLOR] Freedesktop Platform org.freedesktop.Platform 21.08.2 21.08 system Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 21.1.7 20.08 system Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 21.2.1 21.08 system nvidia-390-144 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-390-144 1.4 system default org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.default 21.08 system nvidia-390-144 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-390-144 1.4 system Intel org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 20.08 system Intel org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 21.08 system openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.0 system Freedesktop SDK org.freedesktop.Sdk 20.08.15 20.08 system GNOME Application Platform version 40 org.gnome.Platform 40 system [/FONT]
Last edited by Snowhog; Sep 22, 2021, 04:30 PM.Leave a comment:
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Well, I decided to return to sub 10 second boot to login times and purged snapd from my system. Here is the result
:~$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 3.110s (kernel) + 2.825s (userspace) = 5.936s
graphical.target reached after 2.811s in userspace
jerry@jerry-aspirev3771:~$ systemd-analyze blame
1.957s smartmontools.service
1.098s udisks2.service
976ms rsyslog.service
750ms dev-sda1.device
431ms gpu-manager.serviceLeave a comment:
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I get exactly the same output! I wonder why! ����������Originally posted by verndog View PostLeave a comment:
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Here's mine:Code:$ snap list Command 'snap' not found, but can be installed with: sudo apt install snapd $ flatpak list Command 'flatpak' not found, but can be installed with: sudo apt install flatpak
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Here are the packages on my system installed via snap or flatpak
I installed FireFox 92 using muon. Some packages are in Disover and some are in Muon.Code:[FONT=monospace][COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454ff][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ [B]snap list[/B] [/COLOR] [B]Name Version Rev Tracking Publisher Notes[/B] core 16-2.51.4 11606 latest/stable canonical[COLOR=#18b218]✓[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] core [/COLOR] core18 20210722 2128 latest/stable canonical[COLOR=#18b218]✓[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] base [/COLOR] core20 20210702 1081 latest/stable canonical[COLOR=#18b218]✓[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] base [/COLOR] gnome-3-28-1804 3.28.0-19-g98f9e67.98f9e67 161 latest/stable canonical[COLOR=#18b218]✓[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] - [/COLOR] gtk-common-themes 0.1-52-gb92ac40 1515 latest/stable canonical[COLOR=#18b218]✓[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] - [/COLOR] obs-studio 27.0.1 1258 latest/stable snapcrafters - [COLOR=#000000]:[/COLOR][COLOR=#5454ff][B]~[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]$ [B]flatpak list[/B] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][B]Name Application ID Version Branch Installation[/B][/COLOR] Steam com.valvesoftware.Steam 1.0.0.71 stable system Freedesktop Platform org.freedesktop.Platform 21.08.2 21.08 system i386 org.freedesktop.Platform.Compat.i386 21.08 system Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 21.1.7 20.08 system Mesa org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 21.2.1 21.08 system nvidia-390-144 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-390-144 1.4 system default org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.default 21.08 system nvidia-390-144 org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.nvidia-390-144 1.4 system Intel org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 20.08 system Intel org.freedesktop.Platform.VAAPI.Intel 21.08 system openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.0 system Freedesktop SDK org.freedesktop.Sdk 20.08.15 20.08 system GNOME Application Platform version 40 org.gnome.Platform 40 system Breeze Gtk theme org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Breeze 3.22 system Physics org.sugarlabs.Physics 35.1 stable system [/FONT]
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I just checked the Discovery Software Center on Kubuntu 20.04.3 and I found to versions of Firefox and one of them was the Snap version. I certainly hope this doesn't mean that Kubuntu 22.04 will be using the Snap version of Firefox by default?
Because if yes I won't be able to use Firejail with Firefox.Leave a comment:
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That's what I did for Thunderbird 91.1.1 in KDE Neon. It picked up my profile and I just carried on where I left off with TB78...Originally posted by verndog View PostLeave a comment:
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As a test, I purged default FF on ubuntu, then copied the "firefox-92.0.tar.bz2" to "/opt", created a ".desktop" file, and it worked perfectly without either .deb or Snap.Leave a comment:
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