[Software] Wine HQ Stable vs Ubuntu's Corked Wine

[TwoFistedJustice]

I am considering installing winehq-stable (v 11) in order to run Insta360 Studio

BUT... Kubuntu already uses Wine 10

1. Can I have them both installed without extra configuration?
2. Or should I remove Wine 10?
3. Is there any real reason to keep 10 if I have 11?

Here is a previous post on how to install winehq-stable

[claydoh]

1. No. Using the unofficial Wine Flatpak might be a workaround
2. Installing WineHQ's version will replace your existing Wine packages
3. If 10 works great for you, use it. Wine being Wine, sometimes an upgrade might break an existing setup, perhaps.

Now, not having looked at this specific app, or if anyone else has actually used it in Wine, do be aware that while the app may well run and operate just fine, it may or may not be able to connect to the device. Just something to be aware of.

[skyfishgoo]

try running it with bottles which is based on wine 11

https://usebottles.com/runners

[die.boer]

I gave up on wine and bottles some years ago it was just not working then (for me)
Maybe now it's better ,I don't care , there's nothing windows I want lol
I'd only use it now if the wine comes in a bottle ,from the liquor shop
Anyway ,this post not helping ,I'm just sharing me thoughts
Carry on ...

[skyfishgoo]

the only things i would want to use bottles for (or wine) is to run the proprietary vendor hardware for things like my motherboard updates or my AIO theming but bottles does not grant the kind of hardware level access need for those things to work, so even you can get them installed and running, they don't see your hardware.

kind of pointless and it's the only reason i haven't reclaimed that space on my 2nd nvme where win10 is installed.

[Snowhog]

I gave up on wine and bottles some years ago it was just not working then (for me)
Maybe now it's better ,I don't care , there's nothing windows I want lol
I'd only use it now if the wine comes in a bottle ,from the liquor shop
Anyway ,this post not helping ,I'm just sharing me thoughts
Carry on ...

Me thinks your post came after imbibing that wine from the liquor shop!

[die.boer]

me thinks you're too observant

[TwoFistedJustice]

try running it with bottles which is based on wine 11

https://usebottles.com/runners

Does the Bottles flathub include its own built in instance of Wine or does it rely on a separately installed instance?

[skyfishgoo]

flatpaks are self contained... wine installation is not required.

[claydoh]

try running it with bottles which is based on wine 11

Does the Bottles flathub include its own built in instance of Wine or does it rely on a separately installed instance?

I forgetted about Bottles, and Lutris as well. Bottles never really ever worked well for me. Lutris has been a bit better in my usage.

But both of these use standalone Wine "runners" in a way similar to Steam and proton. they are separate from the system Wine, and you will have spearate "runners" for each application used. So you can have different Wine versions and builds, and even switch them out for an application.

This of course, adds complications and some confusion, or can do so.

[TwoFistedJustice]

Trying to get Insta360 to run has so far proven impossible. I can't even get it to start. Logs reveal nothing except it went out with "exit code". Well no sh...


So I'm starting from scratch. I uninstalled all versions of wine with intention of installing just the flathub version. BUT


I have two artifacts remaining that I'm not sure what to do with.

looks to be the ppa and the public key (which apt has been claiming doesn't exist)

They are:

1. etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq-noble.source
2. /etc/apt/keyrings/winehq-archive.key

Can I safely just delete them?

If not, what's the safe way to get rid of them?



contents of ppa file

Types: deb
URIs: https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu
Suites: noble
Components: main
Architectures: amd64 i386
Signed-By: /etc/apt/keyrings/winehq-archive.key
​

[claydoh]

You don't need to remove any apt sources here, especially if you plan to use Winehq for anything down the road.

Removing the files is fine, but it depends on if you have any software from it installed. You will want to make sure any packages from it are removed before deleting the source so it doesn't prevent you from installing the ubuntu Wine down the road, if you ever need to.
You can use Synaptic to filter by repo to do this.


Do note that this is NOT a PPA, so any PPA management tools like ppa-purge may not work properly.
Otherwise, using ppa-purge would downgrade any packages form a PPA back to stock versions and remove the repo files.

[TwoFistedJustice]

You don't need to remove any apt sources here, especially if you plan to use Winehq for anything down the road.

Removing the files is fine, but it depends on if you have any software from it installed. You will want to make sure any packages from it are removed before deleting the source so it doesn't prevent you from installing the ubuntu Wine down the road, if you ever need to.
You can use Synaptic to filter by repo to do this.


Do note that this is NOT a PPA, so any PPA management tools like ppa-purge may not work properly.
Otherwise, using ppa-purge would downgrade any packages form a PPA back to stock versions and remove the repo files.

I would like to remove them so that I can start over with a wine-free system. So that when something goes wrong with wine, which it will, I'm only having ONE set of wine related files to deal with.

Basically I'm stripping the wine paint so I can paint fresh, rather than painting over the old paint.

[skyfishgoo]

you should be able to remove all of wine from your system by using

sudo apt remove wine* --purge

but it may still leave a lot kruft

#then use dolphin to view your /home directory and remove these entries
rm -rf $HOME/.wine
rm -f $HOME/.config/menus/applications-merged/wine*
rm -rf $HOME/.local/share/applications/wine
rm -f $HOME/.local/share/desktop-directories/wine*

#check the directory first, but last time ALL the icons in this folder were from wine
rm -rf $HOME/.local/share/icons/hicolor*
rm -f ~/.local/share/icons/????_*.{xpm,png}
rm -f ~/.local/share/icons/*-x-wine-*.{xpm,png} }}}

#followed by
sudo apt update
sudo apt autoclean
sudo apt clean
sudo apt autoremove​

[die.boer]

rm -rf $HOME/.local/share/icons/hicolor* deletes your whole hicolor icon directory, not just Wine’s icons.

Also , leftover source file is winehq-noble, which is the 24.04 suite, and OP's on 26.04. He followed a 24.04 guide on a newer release. Mixing the noble repo into a resolute system can cause dependency oddities , that might be a reason why the app won't start...

BTW ...GPU-heavy video apps like Insta360 Studio are often poor Wine candidates regardless of version, so I wouldn’t bet on a Wine 11 upgrade fixing it.