Sticky Item in Updater

[tim042849]

An item which has already been updated still appears in the
updater screen. This has the effect of forcing the updater item
to be permanently displayed on my toolbar.

Specifically, this is xulrunner-1.9, it shows the status column
as 'upgradeable' and the requested column as 'no change'.

If I right-click on the row for this item, I get a drop-down list with
the active items as follows:
1)Request Upgrade
2)Request Removal
3)Request purging
Not sure just what these might do - if I choose "Request Removal"
will this remove the item from my system or just from the Updater?
(the last is my preference) - and I don't want to have it removed
from my system unless I know that the removal will not adversely
affect it.

Furthermore, the updater is showing signs of instability since this
item appeared.
thanks
tim

[CVPunk]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

in Konsole type sudo dpkg --configure -a
type in your password
Then try to run, sudo apt-get update
Then sudo apt-get upgrade

There have been times when an update will kind of mess with Adept.
Try running those commands and see if it clears up the problems.

[Snowhog]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

Ensuring that first, you have close the notifier.

[tim042849]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

Hi:
I have followed the instructions - twice actually, after the first, I logged out
and restarted the desktop.
Here is what I have captured from the command-line sessions:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
 xulrunner-1.9
 The following packages will be upgraded:
  gnome-screensaver
  1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
  Need to get 1570kB of archives.
  After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Fetched 1570kB in 26s (58.5kB/s)
(Reading database ... 219884 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace gnome-screensaver 2.20.0-0ubuntu4.2 (using .../gnome-screensaver_2.20.0-0ubuntu4.3_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement gnome-screensaver ...
Setting up gnome-screensaver (2.20.0-0ubuntu4.3) ...

And here is the last stage of the second time:

Second time
sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
 xulrunner-1.9
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

Sadly the problem persists
thanks
tim

[CVPunk]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

hmmm....
the only other thing I can think of is maybe running sudo dpkg --force-overwrite --install xulrunner-1.9
basically forcing the system to install the xulrunner.
xulrunner is for firefox I believe... did you install firefox?


[edit] this is what xulrunner is for... http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/xulrunner-1.9

[tim042849]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

sudo dpkg --force-overwrite --install xulrunner-1.9

Tried the code above. Got the following:

dpkg: error processing xulrunner-1.9 (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xulrunner-1.9

Don't know just what that means.
Sure appreciate the feedback.

[CVPunk]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

maybe it is just that you don't have the repositories checked for that.
in your package manager, check to make sure you have the Gutsy partners checked, then let the repositories reload.

[tim042849]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

Hiya CVPunk:

in your package manager, check to make sure you have the Gutsy partners checked, then let the repositories reload.

Could you elaborate with some details.
FYI: I'm familiar with the command line, but on ubuntu - I've just gotten
used to using Adept Manager. I think you've nailed it, but I'm
still unsure of the implementation of your suggestion.
End of day here.... Your input is recognized - but I won't get
to it 'til tomorrow (Alaska Time).
Thanks again
tim

[CVPunk]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

I am using a different version of Adept than you are, but in Adept, check your repositories Sources list.
Under Kubuntu Software check all of the boxes. (you can leave the Source Code unchecked if you like)
Then, under the Third-Party Software tab, check those boxes also. (you can leave the CD-Rom unchecked)

After that, I believe you just click Fetch. It will update your repository lists, then you can run your updates and upgrades.

[tim042849]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

As you have indicated, all boxes in both tabs are already checked...

[CVPunk]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater


try running sudo apt-get autoclean
then sudo apt-get autoremove
after that try to run the update again with sudo apt-get update
then sudo apt-get upgrade


if it is still showing up, in Konsole, lets try
sudo dpkg -i --force-all xulrunner-1.9

[tim042849]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

Followed your instructions:

 sudo dpkg -i --force-all xulrunner-1.9
dpkg: error processing xulrunner-1.9 (--install):
 cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xulrunner-1.9

Hmmm! Time is limited for me until later today.
Will do a 'man' for dpkg. Wondering if when
xulrunner was installed that a particular file
was _not_ written, therefore the message above:

No such file or directory

Are we having fun yet?

[Snowhog]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

Have you tried only using the package name xulrunner? The -1.9 is a version identifier.

[tim042849]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

I've just run xulrunner from the command line without arguments, which gives me a help screen.
Question: Can I safely remove it? I don't want to mess up firefox,
which I rely on all the time. Additionally, I notice that firefox 2.0.0.17 is pretty
unstable. It has a "habit" of shutting down unexpectedly or freezing up.
And I have had the unnerving experience of once removing liblua and hosing
my entire desktop.

So if removing xulrunner is safe I could do that and re-install and see if the
issue resolves. (It looks like xulrunner assets are installed under usr/lib ..)
Your thoughts?
thanks again
Tim

[Snowhog]

Re: Sticky Item in Updater

Easy to test the removal. Open a console and type:

sudo apt-get remove --simulate xulrunner

It will show you what packages will be removed without actually doing it.