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**molloollom** · Oct 24, 2007, 05:01 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

I've never had much fun running compiz directly from the command line. I use the desktop-effects package that's a part of the standard ubuntu to get compiz started, and it works a lot better. Maybe give it a try? After you install it just run desktop-effects from the command line and a window should pop up asking if you want to enable it, then you're all set. My guess is that this little application better manages the backend stuff of compiz than just running it as is.

**Dikke_lu** · Oct 24, 2007, 05:13 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

I can't find a package called desktop-effects?

**molloollom** · Oct 24, 2007, 05:30 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

That's weird. In the future, you should probably change your repository sources, I don't think you've got them all enabled. You can do that from inside synaptic if you like, but it's probably easier to just copy over a better sources.list from somebody else and overwrite the file already in place at /etc/apt/sources.list

Here's the package I'm talking about. You can click it and it'll install it from right here, if you want.
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/poo...untu4_i386.deb

Here's my sources.list if you want to copy it.

Code:

# Sweener's Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 Sources list
# 
# Repository List based on standard gutsy with many extra packages
#
# If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file
# and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number):
#
# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
# gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
#
# If you have a gpg key URL use (replace URL with the key address):
#
# wget -q URL -O- | sudo apt-key add -
#
# If you have a gpg key file use (replace FILE with the key file):
#
# sudo apt-key add FILE

# Ubuntu supported packages (GPG key: 437D05B5)
deb [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy main restricted 
deb [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-updates main restricted
deb [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security main restricted

deb-src [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy main restricted
deb-src [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-updates main restricted
deb-src [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security main restricted

# Ubuntu community supported packages (GPG key: 437D05B5)
deb [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy universe multiverse 
deb [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-updates universe multiverse
deb [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security universe multiverse

deb-src [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy universe multiverse
deb-src [url]http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-updates universe multiverse
deb-src [url]http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu[/url] gutsy-security universe multiverse


# Medibuntu - Ubuntu 7.10 "gutsy gibbon"
# GPG key-file: [url]http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg[/url]
deb [url]http://packages.medibuntu.org/[/url] gutsy free non-free
#deb-src [url]http://packages.medibuntu.org/[/url] gutsy free non-free

**dibl** · Oct 24, 2007, 05:38 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

@Dikki_lu, I didn't see on that other thread that it said to install the package "compizconfig-settings-manager". On my system which is running great with compiz, I have the following packages installed:

compiz-core
compiz-fusion-plugins-main
compiz-kde
compiz-plugins
compizconfig-settings-manager

and Emerald, of course.

Note what is NOT installed: compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-compcomm-plugins-main, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-gnome.

The other question I have is, does glxgears run? You need to verify that you have glx enabled, although it appears to be in your xorg.conf file.

HTH

**Dikke_lu** · Oct 24, 2007, 05:51 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

glxgears gives me the three moving wheels (sorry couldn't find the correct word for ...

).

I have all the packages installed that you have installed. But some extra that aptitude installed because of dependencies.

Should I try to remove compiz, compiz-bcop, compiz-compcomm-plugins-main, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-gnome?

**dibl** · Oct 24, 2007, 06:03 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

Well, I'll tell you something that is strange. I originally DID install the "compiz" package, but after I ran it, and later updated, it now appears as "not installed". But it is running great.

Here's what I would suggest to try. Remove these: compiz-bcop, compiz-compcomm-plugins-main, compiz-dev, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-gnome

Also, make sure you do NOT have the package xserver-xgl installed.

Next, open Konsole and enter

Code:

compiz

It will either run (you will see the screen go black for a moment, then come back), or give an error output. If it runs, DON'T CLOSE THE KONSOLE. If it it gives an error, post the error.

If it happens to run, you want to leave the Konsole open, close down other apps, and restart your system. When it comes back up, compiz will start automatically, and an empty console window will be open, which you can close.

**Dikke_lu** · Oct 24, 2007, 06:21 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

I removed compiz-bcop, compiz-compcomm-plugins-main, compiz-dev.

I couldn't remove compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-gnome because of dependencies with the package compiz (and I really think I need this one

)

I haven't got xserver-xgl installed.

When I start compiz I get these messages and still no titlebars.

Code:

roel@roel-desktop:~$ compiz
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0221 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
Checking for non power of two support: present.
Checking for Composite extension: present.
Comparing resolution (2560x1024) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present.
Checking for FBConfig: present.
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Starting emerald
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
exec: 378: /usr/bin/metacity: not found

**dibl** · Oct 24, 2007, 06:58 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

It almost sounds like there is a problem with Emerald, more than compiz, which is odd.

What happens when you enter

Code:

emerald

in the console?

**Dikke_lu** · Oct 24, 2007, 07:30 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

nothing happens

Emerald version:

Code:

roel@roel-desktop:~$ emerald --version
emerald: emerald version 0.3.0-svn

**ppberns** · Oct 24, 2007, 10:59 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

Hi,
I've had similar problems and what fixed it for me was to reinstall my video driver (nvidia). After that I uninstalled all of compiz (libs and emerald as well) and then reinstalled. Before trying to restart compiz, I rebooted my box to make sure it comes up and gives me kde. It did. I then did alt-F2 and typed in compiz --replace. The screen went blank (and my heart was in my throat) but then all my wobbly windows came into view.
Since then, I have rebooted several times and compiz starts up all by itself and runs without issue.

**molloollom** · Oct 24, 2007, 10:05 PM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

Maybe I don't get it, why recommend emerald? It seems to me to be just as buggy as whatever default window decorator compiz uses

**Dikke_lu** · Oct 25, 2007, 12:49 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

@ppberns
I just cleanly installed everything. I don't think it will help to install it again. Isn't there anything that changed in your configuration of xorg or ... ?

@molloollom
What do you recommend then?

@everybody
What is the output you get when starting compiz?
This is my output.

Code:

roel@roel-desktop:~$ compiz
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0221 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
Checking for non power of two support: present.
Checking for Composite extension: present.
Comparing resolution (2560x1024) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present.
Checking for FBConfig: present.
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Starting emerald
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
exec: 378: /usr/bin/metacity: not found

**molloollom** · Oct 25, 2007, 03:32 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

Originally posted by Dikke_lu

@molloollom
What do you recommend then?

I'm just talking about the regular compiz window decorator. It comes with one, it's gtk based and it's every bit as stable and, in some cases, unstable, as Emerald. Compiz says it comes with that decorator but I also got compiz-gnome installed so who knows? All the stuff just comes by default with the Gutsy version of Ubuntu (not kubuntu). You know that desktop-effects application I mentioned you try earlier? That's the official package used to enable effects from the gnome desktop environment. You don't even see the command line with that method, it's just a little menu item in the gnome system menu that says desktop effects, and if you hit enable it just turns on without needing to know anything else about it. When I ran it in KDE it enables it just as easily, and it's easy to ignore all the obscure backend stuff and have it run every bit as stable as with this emerald WM, from what I've seen of it after trying it out today. If you're having problems you might as well give it a try, couldn't suck any less than not getting it to work at all.

Here's the output I get when running the same command you did, after installing emerald.

Code:

rable@rable-desktop:~$ compiz --replace ccp &
[1] 6941
rable@rable-desktop:~$ Checking for Xgl: not present.
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0392 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
Checking for non power of two support: present.
Checking for Composite extension: present.
Comparing resolution (1280x1024) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present.
Checking for FBConfig: present.
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Starting emerald
/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format

Here's what I get from running desktop-effects when emerald is installed

Code:

rable@rable-desktop:~$ desktop-effects
nvidia_new restricted driver is already enabled
Checking for Xgl: not present.
gtk-window-decorator: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a decoration manager; try
using the --replace option to replace the current decoration manager.
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0392 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
Checking for non power of two support: present.
Checking for Composite extension: present.
Comparing resolution (1280x1024) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present.
Checking for FBConfig: present.
Checking for Xgl: not present.
Starting emerald
/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
Not initializing the Gtk-Qt theme engine
Window manager warning: Invalid WM_TRANSIENT_FOR window 0x1a5 specified for 0xc00005 (Configure ).

Here's my output when emerald isn't installed.

Code:

rable@rable-desktop:~$ desktop-effects
nvidia_new restricted driver is already enabled
Checking for Xgl: gtk-window-decorator: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a decoration
 manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current decoration manager.
not present.
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0392 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
Checking for non power of two support: present.
Checking for Composite extension: present.
Comparing resolution (1280x1024) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.
Checking for nVidia: present.
Checking for FBConfig: present.
Checking for Xgl: not present.
/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format

Every one of those times it worked and switched them automatically.
I'm thinking desktop-effects may work for you because that error you get mentions the metacity decorator. Since it's a decorator-related problem, using something that automatically switches decorators might do the trick. Though if you still don't have access to all the ubuntu repositories in your sources.list, it might be something altogether different like just needing to add some repos and do an apt-get upgrade to some more recent application version that's giving you trouble.

**Dikke_lu** · Oct 25, 2007, 03:44 AM

Re: Compiz-fusion titlebars nvidia

I installed the deb file of desktop-effects and started with desktop-effects and I get the same result.
No Titlebars.

Also desktop-effects tells me that he couldn't start the child process metacity.

How can I install metacity?

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