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    Multi-OS Boot

    I have a machine that has Win-XP on it; I installed both Ubuntu and Kubuntu on the drive, and all went fine. Startup showed a menu with all distros and Windows to choose at startup.

    Then I installed SUSE, and the startup got completely disrupted.

    Now I get the SUSE startup menu, with a Windows choice, but no Ubuntu or Kubuntu.

    How can I get GRUB back, and then get it to also show SUSE and Windows along with the Ubuntu and Kubuntu?

    Regards,
    Chuck Billow

    *****<br />&quot;I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow.&quot;<br /><br />~ Woodrow Wilson

    #2
    Re: Multi-OS Boot

    "Last Linux Wins"

    In the battle for Grub dominance, the last Linux that you permit to write to the MBR gets to be the boot menu master. So, you'll have to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in SUSE to reinstate your *buntus to the boot menu.

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      #3
      Re: Multi-OS Boot

      Originally posted by dibl
      "Last Linux Wins"

      In the battle for Grub dominance, the last Linux that you permit to write to the MBR gets to be the boot menu master. So, you'll have to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in SUSE to reinstate your *buntus to the boot menu.

      I got the edit part... but what do I put there? I mean, I understand "startup sequence for each O/S, but where do I get those?

      CB
      *****<br />&quot;I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow.&quot;<br /><br />~ Woodrow Wilson

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        #4
        Re: Multi-OS Boot

        It’s here:

        How To GRUB Methods - Toolkit
        http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/inde...opic=3081671.0

        You get the SUSE boot stanza entry from . . . SUSE! Get into SUSE and find the /boot/grub/menu.lst and copy the SUSE “title” stanza lines into the /boot/grub/menu.lst of the Linux that USED TO control the booting.

        First, though, you must re-install GRUB (from that same Linux that USED TO control the booting), to the MBR of the drive (hd0)). (That’s the root - setup – quit in the How-To.) It’s all in the How-To -- it will get you on the right track.

        An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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          #5
          Re: Multi-OS Boot

          Yay -- Qqmike, I was just about to paste in the link to your Grub tutorial.

          Thanks!

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            #6
            Re: Multi-OS Boot

            OK, thanks guys... I'm off to it!

            CB
            *****<br />&quot;I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow.&quot;<br /><br />~ Woodrow Wilson

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              #7
              Re: Multi-OS Boot

              Gee, I thought maybe you forgot me . . . ( )
              An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                #8
                Re: Multi-OS Boot

                We'll never forget old What's-his-name!

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                  #9
                  Re: Multi-OS Boot

                  Uh, guy?!

                  How do I get into menu.lst of an O/S that won't start / doesn't show up on the menu?

                  Regards,
                  Chuck Billow
                  *****<br />&quot;I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow.&quot;<br /><br />~ Woodrow Wilson

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                    #10
                    Re: Multi-OS Boot

                    Keep reading through the How-To.

                    (Use the Live Kubuntu CD, open Konsole, type sudo grub to begin to re-install GRUB using root (hdx,y)--setup (hdz)--quit method; then the How-To shows you how to mount the partition from a live CD so you can open menu.lst and edit it.)
                    An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                      #11
                      Re: Multi-OS Boot

                      Of course, after you re-install GRUB, you'll be able to boot into Kubuntu again, just as before, but will not yet be able to boot into SUSE until fixing the menu.lst, but at least the urgency will be off somewhat.

                      You'll need to know where things are at:
                      Windows, Ubuntu, Kubuntu
                      all on the same hard drive?
                      on what partitions? Windows is on the first partition? Then . ..

                      grub> root (hdx,y)
                      grub> setup (hd0)
                      grub> quit
                      exit
                      re-boot to test it

                      where (hdx,y) = the partition of the Linux distro that USED TO control the GRUB menu;
                      and I'm assuming this is all on the one hard drive and so (hd0) refers to the Master Boot Record of that hard drive.

                      (Counting starts at zero on hard drives and partitions. So, e.g., (hd0,2) = the first hard drive hd0, the 3rd partition (that's the "2', and the counting would be partition 0, partition 1, partition 2 to get to the third partition).)
                      An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                        #12
                        Re: Multi-OS Boot

                        In case I flicker out here for awhile, one more thing.
                        The hard part sometimes is figuring out what’s on what partition.
                        In the How-To, the keys are
                        grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
                        (although that will return more than one answer and you want the answer where the menu.lst used to be before installing SUSE).

                        grub> geometry (hd0)
                        will tell you what’s on that hard drive.

                        And at a regular terminal (not a grub>),
                        sudo fdisk –lu
                        tells you what’s on your drives.
                        (-lu is “l” as in “list” and “u” as in “units”)

                        If you installed in this order: Windows, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, SUSE, then before SUSE, the boot menu (/boot/grub/menu.lst) would probably have been controlled by the GRUB on the Kubuntu partition (where the root “/” files are for Kubuntu). (But, it may have been controlled by Ubuntu if you made it that way.)
                        An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                          #13
                          Re: Multi-OS Boot

                          I have to figger how to get to GRUB ... from the live CD (boot from same and select KDE/live -- I'm having issues finding the file which seems to be playing hide /seek...

                          I know (set up using Acronis' Disk Director) what order the partitions are, so that part's Ok...

                          I gotta get to the SUSE menu.lst ( duck and run on that one) to get the info there, and then I'll have most pieces, I hope...

                          Regards,
                          Chuck Billow
                          *****<br />&quot;I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow.&quot;<br /><br />~ Woodrow Wilson

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                            #14
                            Re: Multi-OS Boot

                            If you re-boot with the Kubuntu Live CD in the CD tray, you’ll boot into the Kubuntu Live session and see the Desktop, right? (It’s all very slow, from the Live CD – takes awhile, like a few minutes)

                            Then get a terminal by K > System > Konsole (I think)
                            Type
                            sudo grub
                            Get that grub prompt,
                            grub>

                            and then enter all the :
                            root (hdx,y)
                            setup (hd0)
                            quit
                            exit
                            and re-boot to test it

                            (You need to figger out the x and y, as you say you can)
                            An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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                              #15
                              Re: Multi-OS Boot

                              . . . oh, and when you re-boot to test it, you'll have to get that CD out of the tray (just a reminder)
                              An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way. Charles Bukowski

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