What's up with the live CD. Resolved I think!

[Red Knuckles]

I tried a fresh install of Feisty with the live CD. Man is it SLOW. From the time it opens and I can see the clock then click on 'install' until I get to the 7th step where you actually click on the install button takes 25-35 minutes. I could have lived with that, in fact I did, I've tried it 5 times, but the install freezes at 'Detecting File Systems 15%' every time. I've downloaded the iso on 2 different OS's and burned multiple CD's. My box is a Dell 4500s P4 with 256 MB RAM. Any fix for this? Is there a net install? Should I reinstall Edgy and then change the entries in '/etc/apt/sources.list'? I know my box is 5 yrs old but is it now obsolete as far as Ubuntu/Kubuntu? I know I'm trying to install a test release [for good reason] and I expect problems but to not even be able to install it... Very disappointing. I was looking forward to trying Feisty out.

[AljoshaNL]

Re: What's up with the live CD.

Seams like your system is getting obsolete indeed. 5 years is kinda old for a OS released just a week ago. But you might try the alternative install CD, because it doesn't have to boot into the live system it installs much less painful.

[Red Knuckles]

Re: What's up with the live CD.

Seams like your system is getting obsolete indeed. 5 years is kinda old for a OS released just a week ago. But you might try the alternative install CD, because it doesn't have to boot into the live system it installs much less painful.

Thanks I will try that.

[Red Knuckles]

Re: What's up with the live CD.

The speed thing may be related to swap not being started by default. I've tried both Graphical mode and Safe Graphical Mode. If I run [a tip I got from Potard at Linux Mint forums]:

In CLI type : (CTRL+ALT+F1)
sudo mkswap /dev/hdaX (where X is your swap partition id)
sudo swapon /dev/hdaX (same)

things do get faster and work better. But the install still freezes at step 7 'Starting Installation>Detecting File Systems' somewhere in the 10-15% range. So I'll try the alternate CD as suggested by AljoshaNL. I noticed this line about alternate CD:

installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.

Which may be just what I need. Will post back after trying.

Also see this post:

http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6151#6151

[Red Knuckles]

Re: What's up with the live CD.

I finally got Feisty to install with alternate CD. From the time I clicked on 'Install' till it got to 'reboot' was 55 min. BUT I had no X. So I edited '/etc/apt/sources.list' to disable CD-ROM and enable all repos. Then ran update and upgrade. Still no X. Then I ran 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' [I forgot what prompted me to think it wasn't installed but it wasn't]. 452 packages installed then I ran:

sudo dpkg --configure -a
sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Still no X so I then ran:

sudo apt-get install kde [206 more packages]
sudo dpkg --configure -a
sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

still no X but at this point I discovered that I COULD 'startx' if I booted in 'Safe Mode' [root] but could not xserver would not start as regular user. So I then ran:

chown -R <username>:users /home/<username>

and that worked and I now have what at present appears to be anormal functioning installation of Feisty Fawn Herd 3. I think!

Makes me wonder if there may need to be some substantial improvement to the Live CD for some of us with lower tech boxes OR an option on either live CD or Alternate CD for a text installer that will install the entire Kubuntu sustem including kubuntu-desktop and kde.

Now I'm gonna go play.

P.S. I'm a noob so not sure if some of the commands I used are redundent.

[dibl]

Re: What's up with the live CD. Resolved I think!

Geeeeeeezzzz .... that's it -- I'm definitely waiting until AFTER the official April release to try Feisty. Thanks for sharing the "news".

[Red Knuckles]

Re: What's up with the live CD. Resolved I think!

Geeeeeeezzzz .... that's it -- I'm definitely waiting until AFTER the official April release to try Feisty. Thanks for sharing the "news".

Well there is good news from this corner as well. Even though for me installing Feisty on my box was like a nightmare [or like pulling hen's teeth] after I got it up and running and figured out how to get X working properly it has worked quite well. Up to this point I can't recall any problems or bugs. Except for getting it installed that is. :P

[immrlizard]

Re: What's up with the live CD. Resolved I think!

I had a slightly better experience with feisty. I downloaded herd3 and waited a couple days to install it and when it was installed, herd 4 came out. I went to it and all worked well until a security update and things went bad. I assumed this would eventually happen so I wasn't shocked. I went and got a new iso of xubuntu and am going to wait until may to try feisty again. I am really liking xubuntu. I did try Feisty at home on my good computer but it has an ati card and I couldn't ever get the good drivers working. My test boxes are mostly nvidia so they didn't give me much of a problem. While it was working I really liked it. I am hoping that I have a little better luck with the ati drivers in may

[anost]

Re: What's up with the live CD. Resolved I think!

Had a "fairly" easy and straight forward install from Feisty 4 live cd, played a bit with Feisty, like what i see.
As immrlizard, i run an ATI graphics card and have problems with installing the ATI drivers, (the installer is looking for xserver 7.1 .)they seem to have problems with xserver 7.2, but i will live with it till it can be sorted.
all in all i like what i see in feisty.
ps. i am what i would say a noob, but like tinkering .also running kubuntu 6.10 on my first HDD
great job to all involved in getting (k)ubuntu up and running

[caryb]

Re: What's up with the live CD. Resolved I think!

My story is a little different! I could not get past the disk partitioner after 8 hours I conceded defeat & installed Edgy & did a dist-upgrade. My machine is a 3 year old IBM T42 laptop with 1.7Ghz Centrino & 1Gb of RAM. The lappy runs Beryl really well & have no problems at all. My wireless card has worked flawlessly. On the other hand I had to run up & new IBM server at work to run Zen, Edgy didn't recognize the raid controller or Broadcomm network card. The Ubuntu Herd 4 server install worked flawlessly. I'm embarrassed to say I'm running a production Zen server on Feisty with no problems.


Cary