Where in the lock widgets option in 5.17.90?

[Don B. Cilly]

Thanks K. That Nate's blog is definitely a gold mine for KDE info.

As to The Greek. Talk about being on top of things. :·)
He says:
Ok, you should try v0.2.0 that requires Plasma>=5.18. When you exit Configure Layout mode of Plasma 5.18 the applet should become hidden. I have not tested it but I believe it should work.

I tried. Edit panel, Add widget, local file... no button.
And I'm not sure what "Configure Layout mode" is exactly.
And :·) we (on 5.17.90) don't quite have 5.18 yet, so... I'm lost.

Maybe chimak - who has the button - can have a better idea.

[chimak111]

He says:

I didn't know but also I don't know if new global editing mode is accessible to applets, the applet main purpose was to help Latte send screen geometries to Plasma, in Plasma 5.18 this is provided by a new Plasma mechanism. So there is big chance that the applet will become obsolete if there is no easy way for applets to access new global editing mode.

Which I don't quite understand.

We "non-developers" will just have to keep calm and carry on

This should sum up the changes (with relevant links to phabricator):
https://pointieststick.com/2019/10/2...-noble-cashew/

Thanks! Bookmarked.

[kubicle]

He says:

I didn't know but also I don't know if new global editing mode is accessible to applets, the applet main purpose was to help Latte send screen geometries to Plasma, in Plasma 5.18 this is provided by a new Plasma mechanism. So there is big chance that the applet will become obsolete if there is no easy way for applets to access new global editing mode.

Which I don't quite understand.

This should sum up the changes (with relevant links to phabricator):
https://pointieststick.com/2019/10/2...-noble-cashew/

[Don B. Cilly]

He says:

I didn't know but also I don't know if new global editing mode is accessible to applets, the applet main purpose was to help Latte send screen geometries to Plasma, in Plasma 5.18 this is provided by a new Plasma mechanism. So there is big chance that the applet will become obsolete if there is no easy way for applets to access new global editing mode.

Which I don't quite understand.

[chimak111]

Yes, he usually is (for those who don't know, he's Mr. Latte Dock ;·).
I just told him on store.kde anyway.

Thank you!

[Don B. Cilly]

Yes, he usually is (for those who don't know, he's Mr. Latte Dock ;·).
I just told him on store.kde anyway.

[chimak111]

Trawling through Phabricator, bugs, and changelogs, there is no longer a visible lock widgets option, which apparently was originally designed for sysadmin/kiosk mode use. As it has been a long time since widgets have been too easy to move, etc, etc. They removed it with the revamp of the overall settings, apparently. Can be set via config edit.

~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc :

[General]
immutability=2

The default is "1"
...

Thanks for digging into the disappearance! As such, the button is not very obtrusive.

Well, if this is going to be the way it's going to be, maybe someone should tell the Greek to find another way to show/hide the transparency button

Normally, the dev is on top of these things but maybe it's worth an issue on GitHub.

[claydoh]

I have always had my widgets locked, just to hide the "unnecessary" panel configuration button, but since they seemed to have done away with that as well, they'll hear no complaints from me.
I think it was originally implemented to protect widgets from accidental deletion/movement. But like you said, this is much less of a problem in later iterations of Plasma than it used to be in earlier versions.

Well, that does not show unless you do a right click on the panel , and choose the edit panel option, or right click on the desktop and choose Customize layout. So, you'll not have to worry about it

[kubicle]

There will be howls from the 5 people that actually use it, methinks. I don't recall ever using this option, going back to KDE 4.0, back in 2008.

I have always had my widgets locked, just to hide the "unnecessary" panel configuration button, but since they seemed to have done away with that as well, they'll hear no complaints from me.
I think it was originally implemented to protect widgets from accidental deletion/movement. But like you said, this is much less of a problem in later iterations of Plasma than it used to be in earlier versions.

[claydoh]

The reason I was looking for the lock/unlock is because of the plasma transparency button which can be hidden only by locking widgets if I understand this correctly: https://store.kde.org/p/1338479/

That's rather awkward, having to unlock widgets in order to use, then lock again. A systray widget would be better. Though this widget is very young, perhaps the author can make it work with Plasma 5.18, or turn it into a systray item.

Or an extra panel, put on a side or the top, set to autohide, containing just this widget and resized to just fit it. I used to do this, having each part of a normal bottom panel broken into 4 or 5 individual panels, so that I could have each one view in a way that would not get in the way of Kodi's interface, on my HTPC setup.

[Don B. Cilly]

Well, if this is going to be the way it's going to be, maybe someone should tell the Greek to find another way to show/hide the transparency button

[claydoh]

Trawling through Phabricator, bugs, and changelogs, there is no longer a visible lock widgets option, which apparently was originally designed for sysadmin/kiosk mode use. As it has been a long time since widgets have been too easy to move, etc, etc. They removed it with the revamp of the overall settings, apparently. Can be set via config edit.

~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc :

[General]
immutability=2

The default is "1"

There will be howls from the 5 people that actually use it, methinks. I don't recall ever using this option, going back to KDE 4.0, back in 2008.

[chimak111]

...
I guess they did away - unless it's a bug and they lost it -with the lock/unlock widgets thing.
Personally I found it totally useless - and never used it

The reason I was looking for the lock/unlock is because of the plasma transparency button which can be hidden only by locking widgets if I understand this correctly: https://store.kde.org/p/1338479/

[Don B. Cilly]

Plasma 5.17.90 (which I guess is the Beta)
No Tweaks either:



The menu in the first of my pics above is in the Mouse Actions section.

I guess they did away - unless it's a bug and they lost it -with the lock/unlock widgets thing.
Personally I found it totally useless - and never used it

[chimak111]

And this is what I get with a right-click on the desktop: