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http://kubuntu.org/contribute-to-kubuntu/
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You can "think" what you wish, but DEMANDING the volunteers meet your schedule is, to say the least, arrogant. No one put a gun to your head and forced you to install Kubuntu, and no one is preventing you from moving to another distro. Nor is anyone stopping you from volunteering to help, instead of bitching. Kubuntu, like ALL distros that feature KDE, are at an uncommon dual crossroads: a change in the QT API from version 4 to version 5, forcing distros to move to Plasma 5. You can always remain with the 14.04 release for another two years but if you want Plasma 5 it won't matter which distro you try because KDE comes from KDE.org, regardless of which distro you use. KDE Neon, also based at KDE.org, is the source of the KDE Plasma 5 desktop. You can always switch to it if you want Plasma 5.7.2, which is what I am running right now.Originally posted by uvarvu View Post"A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.β
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also iirc the fact that ubuntu decided to go with QT 5.5 for 16.04 instaed of the LTS 5.6 version of QT is a huge reason why its taking longer to get kde 5.6+ and it related apps Since they require a minimum of Qt 5.6. so the backport packagers now have to check that the upgrade to qt 5.6 doesnt break other qt programs outside of the kde ones that they would normally package.Mark Your Solved Issues [SOLVED]
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A two week turnaround, I must add that to my to-do list ! ** Gets his PA to add it to Trello **Last edited by Guest; Jul 25, 2016, 02:45 PM.Comment
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clivejo, who let you out of your cell? Ain't you supposed to be packaging or sumpin?
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Originally posted by claydoh View Postclivejo, who let you out of your cell? Ain't you supposed to be packaging or sumpin?
shhhhh don't tell anyone I escaped from the Developers Dungeon, please don't make me go back!Comment
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You fooled me with the cookies last time! Not falling for that again.Comment
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A 'developer'? Does he warrant a KFN badge?Originally posted by claydoh View Postclivejo, who let you out of your cell? Ain't you supposed to be packaging or sumpin?
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Kubuntu Member badge for sure, and imo he does deserve a dev one as well even if it isn't official atmOriginally posted by Snowhog View PostLast edited by claydoh; Jul 25, 2016, 07:26 PM.Self-built: Asus PRIME B550M-K/Ryzen 5600GT/32Gb/Intel ARC B580 12Gb/KDE neon
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'Kubuntu Member' badge applied.Slava Ukraini! πΊπ¦
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Using Kubuntu Linux since March 23, 2007.
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Qt 5.6.1 official build into the Yakkety main archive today
Lets see if that breaks clivejo's shiny plasma 5.7.2!
(should not do I hope!)On #kubuntu-devel & #kubuntu on libera.chat - IRC Nick: RikMills - Launchpad ID: click
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Please have a little patience. It is in the pipeline.Originally posted by uvarvu View Post
Or as said, there are other options.
As has been suggested, it's not as simple for this release as it might be for others.
- Qt 5.6.x did not make it into the main Xenial archive as Qt release was delayed several times IIRC. Hence Xenial has 5.5.1 and stuck with that.
- Plasma 5.7.x requires Qt 5.6.1 as a minimum
- So to do plasma 5.7.x for Xenial Qt 5.6.1 needs to be backported in a ppa, FW/plasma/Apps built, and then a LOT of testing.
- New QT private ABI causes some breakages on non KDE stuff!
(I have been doing the Qt backport
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Neon et al have been able to just do that, and under their project remit not be overly bothered if their new packages/QT cause breakages on non KDE packages. Or even on some KDE ones, as they doesn't quite do the full set yet.
kubuntu has to have a mind to the rest of the archive and it's installability. Can't just fling our new stuff in a backports ppa and hope for the best.
kubuntu is certainly welcoming volunteers. See the contribute and packaging 'Dojo' link I posted earlier.
That is my explanation, and not an official one ^^^.On #kubuntu-devel & #kubuntu on libera.chat - IRC Nick: RikMills - Launchpad ID: click
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Thanks for the heads up and that makes a lot of sense now - thanks!Originally posted by acheron View Post
I don't want to jump ship as I still think kubuntu is the best after trying some other distros out.
EDIT: What happened to KDE Applications though? Is something preventing Kubuntu moving to a newer release other than lack of resources?Last edited by Guest; Jul 26, 2016, 03:07 AM.Comment
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Unfortunately, the 3 releases (frameworks, plasma and applications), aren't as separate as they appear. There are a number of cross dependencies.
acheron correctly points out that Plasma 5.7.2 depends on Qt5.6.1. This has been our main focus.
However, KDE Applications have thrown us a few problems, especially with KDE PIM (Kontact) which has been restructured into new packages. There are a LOT of changes in the pipeline and we don't release software when there are known issues. Rather than breaking installs or trying to make a release without PIM, it was decided to concentrate on getting PIM fixed and transition to Qt5.6.1Comment
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